Spot on.

Let's not kid ourselves that there's this enormous pool of teams all knocking on the door to be big SL clubs. There's some traditional clubs that are simply big only in name & when you scratch under the surface they simply don't have the resources or infrastructure to do anything of note.

I really do think the game has flip flopped around enough and it's time to draw a line in the sand and say to some current SL sides - look you've got five years and it's make or break time, not only for you, but for the game as a whole in the UK. Invest in youth and facilities instead of playing the blame game and if you do that everyone we'll all prosper.

It's never going to happen tho as those without the vision to be the best have the largest say in the league.

It's not too far to think that next season we could have Toronto, Catalan, London and Hudds in the same league. It might seem harsh, but where are the fans of these clubs? That's four home games with even less atmosphere than normal - what does that look like to the casual viewer?

I don't think Leeds will be relegated but it wouldn't bother me in the slightest should I be wrong. Assuming they do go down and their players become available are any of them worth making a play for.

If they do relegated i think its because of spending too much on upgrading the ground and also bad Managers and players that cant play properely

Big Konnie and throw him on the wing

Bring bad licensing, get cas and wakey thrown out due ti their stadiums as 100 years is a bit much now

I don't think we can really slag Leeds off for upgrading their ground.

The new one is looking great, and at least it's still in the same place as the old.

I wish our new stadium was where Central Park had used to be. It would feel like there was a more of a connection to our glorious past, and some of the best pubs in Wigan wouldn't have died on their a***s.

too true pal

The great thing about Leeds ability to finance their new ground is that us away fans get to help pay for it. We get to have no roof, a crumbling terrace and a 3 mile hike to the nearest bog all for £27.

Always giving the Yorkies.

This, in spades.

But just going back to comments about SL not being the be all and end all od rugby league: I quite agree, but nevertheless aren't league fans a bit too backward looking? You (by and large) don't hear football fans banging on about George Best and Denis Law, let alone Dixie Dean and Tommy Lawton.

I would say this to people wishing for winter rugby and corner flags in play:

a) it's just not going to happen (and I'm sure you realise that). But more importantly,

b) Ask 100 kids in the teens and twenties, the future supporters of the sport. Do you really imagine they would support your view? Not a chance! In fact, if they are at all keen on the game, they may well watch the NRL anyway, and can see from that what a great game we have when played by skilful players under good conditions..

I think in addition to the boxing day derby I'd say we have missed the Kangaroo tours as well. Especially the Wigan v Australia matches.

There's also the chance we might have had a couple of genuine NRL stars over in their off season (similar to the Brett Kenny days).

But whilst overall Summer rugby is better for the spectators comfort the sport has suffered during the time but that can be part attributed to other reasons (salary cap, consumer habits have changed...etc).

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Categorically this

The pubs are all dire now and its a real shame