FORUMS FORUMS






RLFANS.COM
Celebrating
25 years service to
the Rugby League
Community!
  
FORUMS > Wigan Warriors > Bateman interview
75 posts in 6 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
Subscribe | Moderators: Admin, DaveO , Wigan6/Leeds1 Andy , Bilko , Pemps
RankPostsTeam
International Star7580
JoinedServiceReputation
May 201114 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Nov 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature

:



Quote: jonh "McGillvray’s stats from Friday included over 200m gained from 21 carries, 5 clean breaks, 2 attacking kicks an a try.

This is against the best team in the World.

Those are ridiculously good numbers, dare I say it. World class?'"


He’s probably world class but you said him and Hall are “comfortably” the 2 best wingers in the World which is clearly not the case and there’s a clear distinction between the two criteria.

RankPostsTeam
Club Owner20426No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
May 200321 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Nov 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
5733_1599791508.jpeg
Unofficially the most boring poster on Cherry and White.:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_5733.jpeg



Quote: Wigg'n "He’s probably world class but you said him and Hall are “comfortably” the 2 best wingers in the World which is clearly not the case and there’s a clear distinction between the two criteria.'"



I think Hall has again shown every time he has played at th top level of international rugby he has been one of the best performers on the field usually in a comfortably beaten team.

Would love to know his try scoring ratio at internatin level against the Kiwis and Aussies.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach5504
JoinedServiceReputation
Nov 200618 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Nov 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
29557_1715786245.png
:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_29557.png



Quote: Bigredwarrior "I didn't ask you to agree with me did I? If you were to pick a world 13 then yes, there would only be 2 props, 1 scrum half etc. The ones chosen would be world class in the choosers opinion. The others would not be in the world 13 because others are better than them, again in the chooser's opinion. I define world class as the best in the world in their position. How you choose to define it is up to you!'"

Is this a serious answer? So if YOU defined World class as only the best player who ever played the game then the rest of us would just have to accept it? You've put on a public forum your definition of world class as if it's some sort if definitive definition and your reply when it's challenged is 'I didn't ask you to agree'? Too right I didn't agree because it's total nonsense!
Answer me the question I posed: Were Brett Kenny and Wally Lewis both world class in your opinion and, if not, which one wasn't?

RankPostsTeam
International Star1081
JoinedServiceReputation
Sep 201014 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2022Aug 2020LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature

:



McGillveray always plays really well for England but looks just ok for Huddersfield when ive seen him

RankPostsTeam
International Star941No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Dec 201113 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Nov 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature

:



Quote: The_Enforcer "McGillveray always plays really well for England but looks just ok for Huddersfield when ive seen him'"


In a nutshell.

I agree. Good player yes, Uses his size very well from short distances. Not a patch on at least 10 i could name though. A fully fit Manfredi is also better imo.

In my opinion of course. And to the poster who suggested that i think Addo-Carr is good because of a highlights video. Not so. I have seen him play the full 80 many times, I just posted that link up to show the ones who may not have seen him. He plays like that every game. He will end up one of the greatest wingers of all time, mark my words.

RankPostsTeam
International Star1979No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Oct 201212 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Jan 2018Jan 2018LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
68548_1368547004.jpg
"Imagine there's no heaven, it's easy if you try No hell below us, above us only pie"(John Ono Lennon born Wigan 1940):d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_68548.jpg



Quote: The_Enforcer "McGillveray always plays really well for England but looks just ok for Huddersfield when ive seen him'"

You possibly haven't been paying attention then. McGillvary always plays well against us. But the fact is he doesn't play for a particularly good team, so consequently his chances of catching the eye are limited.

But fair play to him, he has stuck with the Giants and if it is true that he is putting his own son's career ahead of his own then fair play to him on that too. I think he might live to regret that though. The chances of a youngster making it in football from City's system are remote whereas he would probably be a success in the NRL.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach15453
JoinedServiceReputation
Jul 200519 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Nov 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature

[quote="Frank Zappa":1sacjrvf]Some scientists claim that hydrogen, because it is so plentiful, is the basic building block of the universe. I dispute that. I say there is more stupidity than hydrogen, and that is the basic building block of the universe.[/quote:1sacjrvf] [quote="The_Enforcer":1sacjrvf]Most idiotic post ever goes to Grimmy..... The way to restart should be an arm wrestle between a designated player from each side.[/quote:1sacjrvf]:



Quote: Phuzzy "Is this a serious answer? So if YOU defined World class as only the best player who ever played the game then the rest of us would just have to accept it? You've put on a public forum your definition of world class as if it's some sort if definitive definition and your reply when it's challenged is 'I didn't ask you to agree'? Too right I didn't agree because it's total nonsense!
Answer me the question I posed
He's not wrong, people just throw the term 'World Class' around when what they mean is 'Very good player', it becomes meaningless. I'd say maybe the top 3 in the world in a position. Your definition is far too broad. Rhys Evans is competing at the highest level, world class he is not.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach3261
JoinedServiceReputation
Jan 200817 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Nov 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
36947_1265606585.jpg
:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_36947.jpg



Quote: Grimmy "Rhys Evans is competing at the highest level'"


Not any more he’s not!

RankPostsTeam
International Star2795No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Jun 201113 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Nov 2023LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature

:



Quote: Phuzzy "


Where did I say you have to accept anything I say? I didn't!!

I said it was my opinion and I didn't ask you to agree with it. Seems I'm wrong and only your opinion matters. With regards to it being a forum isn't the general idea that people with different opinions come together to discuss them?

To answer your question and humour you, Wally Lewis was picked at stand off in the 1982 Invincibles test sides and again in the 1986 sides. Brett Kenny was brilliant but if I had to pick a world 13 either of those years, I'd say Lewis edged it. Using my definition of world class (not expecting you to agree) I'd have probably picked Lewis.

Having considered the remarks on here, I'm willing to concede that more than one player (2/3 tops) can be considered world class in the same position.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach5504
JoinedServiceReputation
Nov 200618 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Nov 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
29557_1715786245.png
:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_29557.png



Quote: Grimmy "He's not wrong, people just throw the term 'World Class' around when what they mean is 'Very good player', it becomes meaningless. I'd say maybe the top 3 in the world in a position. Your definition is far too broad. Rhys Evans is competing at the highest level, world class he is not.'"

I agree that maybe 2 or 3 in any position is pretty much a fair representation of what could be deemed world class, although even this isn't set in stone. I've known times when there's been more than that in any given position but as an approximate 'rule of thumb' I think it works ok.

You misunderstood what I meant by operating at the highest level if you think I would include Rhys Evans in that! He's never even operated at the highest Superleague level never mind above that! The highest level (as intended in my post) is the best of the international or SOO. Nothing else comes close to that description.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach5504
JoinedServiceReputation
Nov 200618 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Nov 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
29557_1715786245.png
:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_29557.png



Quote: Bigredwarrior "
Well for the record I thought we were discussing it and, given that you pretty much agree with me now, then I think it fair to say my opinion was valid in this instance, wouldn't you?

As for the rest of your post, I agree with most of that. I would have Lewis shading Kenny too. However I think we can agree that they were both undeniably world class which was the only point I was trying to make; that using only the 'best' 13 wasn't a workable way of deciding.

Anyway, we obviously agree now and there was no offence intended by my remarks. I hope none was taken.

RankPostsTeam
International Star2795No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Jun 201113 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Nov 2023LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature

:



Quote: Phuzzy "

Give over, no offence taken at all. It's a discussion board and I'm always happy to discuss rugby league with anybody!!

RankPostsTeam
International Star280
JoinedServiceReputation
Aug 201311 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Oct 2019Aug 2018LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
71103_1376482778.jpg
:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_71103.jpg



back on topic if I may (???!!!) but if the likes of Bateman and Gells are rumoured to be off then I have to once again push on with the my belief we need to be signing up someone like Ben Currie.

BC could fit in at centre, SR or Loose - coincidentally the preferred positions of the (potentially) departing players. when he came on for lockers in the ENG v AUS game on Saturday I just sat there thinking, wowsers... what if...

i'd be gutted if we lost Bateman to be honest, plus surely if we lost Gells we have one recognised Centre in the whole first team squad?!

RankPostsTeam
Club Captain1915
JoinedServiceReputation
Mar 20178 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Nov 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
75893_1553638551.jpg
All the good music has already been written by people with wigs and stuff.:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_75893.jpg



Parramatta so i've heard

RankPostsTeam
International Star791No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Jun 201113 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Jun 2022Jun 2022LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature

:



Quote: WiganBurt "back on topic if I may (???!!!) but if the likes of Bateman and Gells are rumoured to be off then I have to once again push on with the my belief we need to be signing up someone like Ben Currie.

BC could fit in at centre, SR or Loose - coincidentally the preferred positions of the (potentially) departing players. when he came on for lockers in the ENG v AUS game on Saturday I just sat there thinking, wowsers... what if...

i'd be gutted if we lost Bateman to be honest, plus surely if we lost Gells we have one recognised Centre in the whole first team squad?!'"


Forsyth would mean 2. But whether he is first choice standard is another thing.

75 posts in 6 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
Subscribe | Moderators: Admin, DaveO , Wigan6/Leeds1 Andy , Bilko , Pemps
75 posts in 6 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
Subscribe | Moderators: Admin, DaveO , Wigan6/Leeds1 Andy , Bilko , Pemps



All views expressed are those of the author and not necessarily those of the RLFANS.COM or its subsites.

Whilst every effort is made to ensure that news stories, articles and images are correct, we cannot be held responsible for errors. However, if you feel any material on this website is copyrighted or incorrect in any way please contact us using the link at the top of the page so we can remove it or negotiate copyright permission.

RLFANS.COM, the owners of this website, is not responsible for the content of its sub-sites or posts, please email the author of this sub-site or post if you feel you find an article offensive or of a choice nature that you disagree with.

Copyright 1999 - 2024 RLFANS.COM

You must be 18+ to gamble, for more information and for help with gambling issues see https://www.begambleaware.org/.



Please Support RLFANS.COM


3.26318359375:5
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
2m
Dons Squad 2025
Jemmo
13
5m
2025 Recruitment
Pyrah123
195
5m
2024
Spookisback
1
6m
Film game
Boss Hog
5632
21m
Castleford sack Lingard
FIL
8
21m
Dual Reg
Spookisback
9
30m
2025 Betfred Super League Fixtures
Clearwing
13
36m
Transfer Talk V5
The Biffs Ba
503
36m
Pre Season - 2025
mwindass
183
39m
How many games will we win
Butcher
5
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
40s
Leeds away first up
Big lads mat
40
41s
Pre Season - 2025
mwindass
183
41s
Rumours thread
Scarlet Pimp
2515
1m
Castleford sack Lingard
FIL
8
1m
New Players
BigTime
137
1m
Film game
Boss Hog
5632
1m
DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings
UllFC
4014
1m
Salford
rubber ducki
12
1m
Wigan v Wire in Vegas
karetaker
11
2m
TV Games - Not Hull
UllFC
3080
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
2024
Spookisback
1
TODAY
Dan Norman Retires
Cokey
1
TODAY
How many games will we win
Butcher
5
TODAY
Leigh Leopards - 2025 Fixtures
ColD
2
TODAY
Catalan Away
jonh
5
TODAY
2025 Betfred Super League Fixtures
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
2025 fixtures
Smiffy27
15
TODAY
Fixtures
Willzay
13
TODAY
Salford
rubber ducki
12
TODAY
WCC Off
Choc Ice
11
TODAY
Leeds away first up
Big lads mat
40
TODAY
Jake McLoughlin
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Assistant Coach - Langley
exiledrhino
30
TODAY
Noah Booth out on loan
Butcher
20
TODAY
Luke Gale testimonial match
BarnsleyGull
2
TODAY
England 5 - 0 Ireland
Sadfish
1
TODAY
Magic Weekend 2025 - Back To Newcastle
RLFANS News
1
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
2025 Betfred Super League Fixt..
381
Magic Weekend 2025 - Back To N..
524
England Beat Samoa To Take Tes..
1265
England's Women Demolish The W..
1090
England Beat Samoa Comfortably..
1329
Operational Rules Tribunal –..
1123
IMG-RFL club gradings released..
1383
Wakefield Trinity Win Champion..
1922
Hunslet Secure Promotion After..
2141
Trinity Into Play Off Final Af..
2379
Wigan Warriors Crowned Champio..
1954
York Valkyrie Win Back to Back..
2190
Hunslet Book Relegation Play O..
2655
Penrith Panthers Secure Fourth..
2085
Wigan Humiliate Leigh For Gran..
2159
POSTSONLINEREGISTRATIONSRECORD
19.65M 1,862 80,15514,103
LOGIN HERE
or REGISTER for more features!.

When you register you get access to the live match scores, live match chat and you can post in the discussions on the forums.
RLFANS Match Centre
 Thu 13th Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R1
20:00
Wigan
v
Leigh
 Fri 14th Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R1
20:00
Hull KR
v
Castleford
20:00
Catalans
v
Hull FC
 Sat 15th Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R1
15:00
Leeds
v
Wakefield
17:30
St.Helens
v
Salford
 Sun 16th Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R1
15:00
Huddersfield
v
Warrington
 Thu 20th Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R2
20:00
Wakefield
v
Hull KR
 Fri 21st Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R2
20:00
Warrington
v
Catalans
20:00
Hull FC
v
Wigan
 Sat 22nd Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R2
15:00
Salford
v
Leeds
20:00
Castleford
v
St.Helens
 Sun 23rd Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R2
14:30
Leigh
v
Huddersfield
 Thu 6th Mar 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R3
20:00
Hull FC
v
Leigh
 Fri 7th Mar 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R3
20:00
Castleford
v
Salford
20:00
St.Helens
v
Hull KR
 Sat 8th Mar 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R3
17:30
Catalans
v
Leeds
 Sun 9th Mar 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R3
17:30
Warrington
v
Wakefield
17:30
Wigan
v
Huddersfield
 Thu 20th Mar 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R4
20:00
Salford
v
Huddersfield
 Fri 21st Mar 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R4
20:00
St.Helens
v
Warrington
ALL SCORES PROVIDED BY RLFANS.COM (SETTINGS)
Matches on TV
Thu 13th Feb
SL
20:00
Wigan-Leigh
Fri 14th Feb
SL
20:00
Hull KR-Castleford
SL
20:00
Catalans-Hull FC
Sat 15th Feb
SL
15:00
Leeds-Wakefield
SL
17:30
St.Helens-Salford
Sun 16th Feb
SL
15:00
Huddersfield-Warrington
Thu 20th Feb
SL
20:00
Wakefield-Hull KR
Fri 21st Feb
SL
20:00
Warrington-Catalans
SL
20:00
Hull FC-Wigan
Sat 22nd Feb
SL
15:00
Salford-Leeds
SL
20:00
Castleford-St.Helens
Sun 23rd Feb
SL
14:30
Leigh-Huddersfield
Thu 6th Mar
SL
20:00
Hull FC-Leigh
Fri 7th Mar
SL
20:00
Castleford-Salford
SL
20:00
St.Helens-Hull KR
Sat 8th Mar
SL
17:30
Catalans-Leeds
Sun 9th Mar
SL
17:30
Warrington-Wakefield
SL
17:30
Wigan-Huddersfield
Thu 20th Mar
SL
20:00
Salford-Huddersfield
Fri 21st Mar
SL
20:00
St.Helens-Warrington
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Mens Betfred Super League XXVIII ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wigan 29 768 338 430 48
Hull KR 29 731 344 387 44
Warrington 29 769 351 418 42
Leigh 29 580 442 138 33
Salford 28 556 561 -5 32
St.Helens 28 618 411 207 30
 
Catalans 27 475 427 48 30
Leeds 27 530 488 42 28
Huddersfield 27 468 658 -190 20
Castleford 27 425 735 -310 15
Hull FC 27 328 894 -566 6
LondonB 27 317 916 -599 6
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Betfred Championship 2024 ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wakefield 27 1032 275 757 52
Toulouse 26 765 388 377 37
Bradford 28 723 420 303 36
York 29 695 501 194 32
Widnes 27 561 502 59 29
Featherstone 27 634 525 109 28
 
Sheffield 26 626 526 100 28
Doncaster 26 498 619 -121 25
Halifax 26 509 650 -141 22
Batley 26 422 591 -169 22
Swinton 28 484 676 -192 20
Barrow 25 442 720 -278 19
Whitehaven 25 437 826 -389 18
Dewsbury 27 348 879 -531 4
Hunslet 1 6 10 -4 0
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
2m
Dons Squad 2025
Jemmo
13
5m
2025 Recruitment
Pyrah123
195
5m
2024
Spookisback
1
6m
Film game
Boss Hog
5632
21m
Castleford sack Lingard
FIL
8
21m
Dual Reg
Spookisback
9
30m
2025 Betfred Super League Fixtures
Clearwing
13
36m
Transfer Talk V5
The Biffs Ba
503
36m
Pre Season - 2025
mwindass
183
39m
How many games will we win
Butcher
5
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
40s
Leeds away first up
Big lads mat
40
41s
Pre Season - 2025
mwindass
183
41s
Rumours thread
Scarlet Pimp
2515
1m
Castleford sack Lingard
FIL
8
1m
New Players
BigTime
137
1m
Film game
Boss Hog
5632
1m
DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings
UllFC
4014
1m
Salford
rubber ducki
12
1m
Wigan v Wire in Vegas
karetaker
11
2m
TV Games - Not Hull
UllFC
3080
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
2024
Spookisback
1
TODAY
Dan Norman Retires
Cokey
1
TODAY
How many games will we win
Butcher
5
TODAY
Leigh Leopards - 2025 Fixtures
ColD
2
TODAY
Catalan Away
jonh
5
TODAY
2025 Betfred Super League Fixtures
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
2025 fixtures
Smiffy27
15
TODAY
Fixtures
Willzay
13
TODAY
Salford
rubber ducki
12
TODAY
WCC Off
Choc Ice
11
TODAY
Leeds away first up
Big lads mat
40
TODAY
Jake McLoughlin
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Assistant Coach - Langley
exiledrhino
30
TODAY
Noah Booth out on loan
Butcher
20
TODAY
Luke Gale testimonial match
BarnsleyGull
2
TODAY
England 5 - 0 Ireland
Sadfish
1
TODAY
Magic Weekend 2025 - Back To Newcastle
RLFANS News
1
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
2025 Betfred Super League Fixt..
381
Magic Weekend 2025 - Back To N..
524
England Beat Samoa To Take Tes..
1265
England's Women Demolish The W..
1090
England Beat Samoa Comfortably..
1329
Operational Rules Tribunal –..
1123
IMG-RFL club gradings released..
1383
Wakefield Trinity Win Champion..
1922
Hunslet Secure Promotion After..
2141
Trinity Into Play Off Final Af..
2379
Wigan Warriors Crowned Champio..
1954
York Valkyrie Win Back to Back..
2190
Hunslet Book Relegation Play O..
2655
Penrith Panthers Secure Fourth..
2085
Wigan Humiliate Leigh For Gran..
2159


Visit the RLFANS.COM SHOP
for more merchandise!