What do you mean "too nice"? Are you saying that it is ridiculous you haven't had as much success as you'd like by playing within the rules and the coach referring to the performance of other teams in a complimentary way, in much the same way as other clubs and coaches do?

So you're suggesting, as you appear to be, that you should break the rules more to win more, because all that matters is Wigan winning. God forbid that other fans refer to Wigan fans as arrogant .....

Well that's one interpretation I suppose.

The days of Kelvin Skerrett are long gone, for better or worse. If he was playing today, he's never complete a game! You just can't get away with the sort of thing he used to do any more.

That doesn't mean, though, that we couldn't and shouldn't improve our pack.

I'm suggesting we need a strong pack leader. If you want to go even earlier where some of the play was even more brutal then Bill Ashurst could also dish it out in the so called 'bad old days' that were very entertaining IMHO. In the old derby matches against the saints if there wasn't a punch up in the first scrum, the crowd thought they were being ripped off.

I could be wrong, but I don't think McTigue got sent off in his life. He never got caught in the scrum.

We could sign the best prop in the world but if he plays in our current game plan of 'back set' after 'back set' then he wouldn't improve us much.
It's very clear our forwards are playing to instructions. Our backs do the graft when we're in possession and our forwards defend. I'm not sure how a new prop changes that.

Wouldn't disagree with that at all.
We need a change in squad and how we play the game.
Personally if SW could do this that I would be fine with that however, if it's the same old trundle in and wrestle then that isn't for me.

I agree entirely. Though I am not sure that our Chairman will interfere with Wanes way of doing things. I think they call this 'groundhog day' ?

I am also not sure our forwards do much defending. None of them can hold a candle in the tackling stakes to old players like Ian Potter or Mick Cassidy.

Think faz and Bateman more than meet that particular benchmark.

Agreed, didn't Faz match the SL record for tackles in a game?