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| Quote: Cruncher "I'm not one of these idiots on the other site....'"
How patronising considering you are now agreeing with the "idiots".
The problem with this site is people are afraid to be controversial and have a rant. You included. God knows why. It's only a forum. Thank God Itchy Arsenal hasn't been drummed out.
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| Quote: Itchy Arsenal "Hope your enjoying life in god's little acre
Thank you, Itchy, I am very much. ![Smile icon_smile.gif](images/smilies//icon_smile.gif)
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| Quote: Itchy Arsenal "I wouldn't call anyone a happy clapper irrespective of their view(s). Each to their own
Unlike yourself I don't think we have a top quality squad. Of the above SOL albeit a great player his best days are behind him and he has been "nursed through" the past 3 seasons. TL - ready for the coaching role. MM seems incapable of playing 80 minutes on a regular basis. JT - nowhere near same player before he joined union.
That's 4 players who I would suggest are in the top 6 earners at the club - the other 2 being ST & GW. You can't have that much salary cap tied up in players who are passed it, incapable of playing 80 minutes or your never sure when they will be available. I want my best players on the field for 80 minutes and excluding long term injuries on the field each and every week.
We have got some fantastic players Farrell, Gildart, Williams, Bateman (would be better if he could pass to his right), Davies, Sam, Burgess, Escare (was a breath of fresh air) and TT. For me these are the foundations that you refer to but not some of the players who missed a preseason. I also hope young Wells can kick on - really like the look of that lad a proper forward.
We are woefully short of props and have been since circa 2012 so it isn't a new issue. We may and I suggest may have found a goal kicker but its taken us years to do this and Williams seems to have happened by accident. Just plain woeful planning and recruitment.
All that being said what really drags my enthusiasm down is how slow we play and sheer lack of intensity at every game. Go back to 2012 and it was the complete opposite. Our style now seems to be slow, slow quick, slow, slow. Mechanical with absolute minimum risk. The club seems totally focused on the CC and don't seem to give a damn about the league with the Warrington & Leeds performances just about summing up the season for me i.e. wasted.
Historically I would have crawled over broken glass to get to a Wembley final this year I just cant be bothered. Perhaps I've caught the bug from the club because they cant be bothered to arrange a coming home ceremony after winning the GF (did I miss it??) or play every game to win. No one and I mean no one can convince me our players wanted to win against Wire at home or Leeds away the other week. I can accept and fully expect losses but when we turn in regular performances of absolute rank proportions then enough is enough.
I don't really know what a middle is - I think it's a small prop who cant take the ball in or do more than 20 minutes (by the clock) but no one has ever been able to tell me what one is. All that I know is that our squad is full of them. As for the wrestling well its wrestled my love of rugby out of me.
I sincerely hope that you are right and that I'm wrong but after the last 3 years of incredibly low standards on and off the park I'm going to take a break after 50 years. I said the same this time last year but in the end I couldn't resist and bought my season ticket as usual. I wont however be doing the same for next year unless there is some new blood on the playing front and some changes in the coaching. I like SW but he needs to change his backup team or stand aside.
Its either stop going or carry on complaining so unfortunately, I'm going with the former. My rationale is that if enough people do this then IL will be forced to make changes. That to you probably seems odd after winning 2 trophies in the last 3 years however, the quality for me devalues any final appearances if you don't even enjoy watching us in finals with the levels of performance being pretty turgid.
As I said Bigred I hope your right (enjoy your Wembley trip as well by the way) and although I wont be at the ground for the remainder of the season I will always be there in spirit wanting the team to win or least go down with a fighting spirit showing a bit of class. Unfortunately I don't equate fighting spirit and class anymore with Wigan RLFC.'"
Top class post,absolutly spot on.
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| Quote: DaveO "How patronising considering you are now agreeing with the "idiots".
The problem with this site is people are afraid to be controversial and have a rant. You included. God knows why. It's only a forum. Thank God Itchy Arsenal hasn't been drummed out.'"
You must be in your element at the moment.
For the first time in your life, your predictions of disaster look like they might come true.
All we need now is a special bench outside Wembley, where you can sit with Red Hot Jalapeno, and every time there's a groan from the Wigan crowd, you can congratulate each other and say, 'See ... told you.'
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| Quote: Pieman "williams not much better makes so many wrong choices'"
Williams got a couple of nasty hits thats why his left thigh was strapped up
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The Internet has provided some wonderful creativity, opportunities and knowledge sharing but it has also given a worldwide forum for people you would leave a full pint behind in the pub to avoid having to listen to them.
aboveusonlypie...
If you don't bother to go to the game when you live in the locality then you are not really a fan and therefore your views are invalid. It's simple.:icons39ad_files/4821-1859san_c-msnicons.jpg |
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| Quote: Cruncher "You must be in your element at the moment.
For the first time in your life, your predictions of disaster look like they might come true.
All we need now is a special bench outside Wembley, where you can sit with Red Hot Jalapeno, and every time there's a groan from the Wigan crowd, you can congratulate each other and say, 'See ... told you.''"
I recall someone being annoyed that Wigan were "getting a rookie coach!" when Maguire was appointed.... Wonder how that worked out, wish i could find it.
I think the only "Controversial" opinion in certain peoples eyes, is anything at all positive.. 'Twas ever thus.... ![Laughing icon_lol.gif](images/smilies//icon_lol.gif)
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51209_1313399598.gif Regards , EW:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_51209.gif |
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| I have only been watching WRLC "live" since 2003 although followed from afar since the early '60s (How i loved Granstand on a Saturday and floodlight Rugby League midweek) so i am pretty much a novice compared to most on here so i have not been "scunnered" yet and still kean as mustard to get to games.
I said to my son at half time at Salford first game of the season (26-0 up and playng well) we could win this League in a canter this year. How wrong was I. Got a lot to learn this old one lol.
When we win these days it's is ground out results . When we loose it's without a fight which seens a strange thing to say about WRL. I am sure we will win the Cup and take Superleague by Storm next season as "Things can only get better" can't they ???
As i say "Got a lot to learn this old one"
Regards , Ew
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| One of the worst games i've ever watched.
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| Our mighty front row showing their worth again
Clubb - 10 tackles, 6 carries for 50 metres
FPN - 11 tackles, 7 carries for 42 metres
Sutton - 34 tackles, 13 carries for 64 metres (good defence but awful with the ball)
TT - 18 tackles, 10 carries for 91 metres (best of a bad bunch)
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| Quote: Wigg'n "Our mighty front row showing their worth again
Clubb - 10 tackles, 6 carries for 50 metres
FPN - 11 tackles, 7 carries for 42 metres
Sutton - 34 tackles, 13 carries for 64 metres (good defence but awful with the ball)
TT - 18 tackles, 10 carries for 91 metres (best of a bad bunch)'"
From the Saints game:
Walmsley - 25 tackles, 20 carries for 180 metres
Taylor - 25 tackles, 20 carries for 145 metres
When are we goint to sign a pack leader?
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| Those stats are shocking....I listened on the radio (BBC MCR) for the first time last night....they had a lady that works with Wigan on the commentary, i kept missing her name, she literally broke down ever error wigan made, she called our plays for what they were and was less that happy. Surely as she works for Wigan, the fact we are not playing well at all is common knowledge amongst the staff? This appears to be less than an easy fix, have we all missed something? Are the players themselves not happy?
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| Quote: Wigg'n "Our mighty front row showing their worth again
Clubb - 10 tackles, 6 carries for 50 metres
FPN - 11 tackles, 7 carries for 42 metres
Sutton - 34 tackles, 13 carries for 64 metres (good defence but awful with the ball)
TT - 18 tackles, 10 carries for 91 metres (best of a bad bunch)'"
Those figures are utterly appalling.
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[quote="Frank Zappa":1sacjrvf]Some scientists claim that hydrogen, because it is so plentiful, is the basic building block of the universe. I dispute that. I say there is more stupidity than hydrogen, and that is the basic building block of the universe.[/quote:1sacjrvf]
[quote="The_Enforcer":1sacjrvf]Most idiotic post ever goes to Grimmy..... The way to restart should be an arm wrestle between a designated player from each side.[/quote:1sacjrvf]: |
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| I don't get all this negativity, we ground out a win against a form team in poor conditions, keeping them to one try. What's more, Saints got beat so if we win next week (which I strongly expect us to) we will most likely be 1 or 2 points off a play off spot. We are World Club Champions and in the Challenge Cup final in a fortnight. Lighten up! ![Laughing icon_lol.gif](images/smilies//icon_lol.gif)
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| Quote: Grimmy "I don't get all this negativity, we ground out a win against a form team in poor conditions, keeping them to one try. What's more, Saints got beat so if we win next week (which I strongly expect us to) we will most likely be 1 or 2 points off a play off spot. We are World Club Champions and in the Challenge Cup final in a fortnight. Lighten up!
I'm not biting...
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| At least we know how many season ticket holders we have....10.000 plus a few hundred..
Couldn't have been more than 7.000 on.
Mind you. Who would walk up to pay and watch that e.
We have plenty local teams that play better rugby and are better coached.
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