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Quote: hatty "I see where your coming from and agree with alot of it, however what you say is probably the reason why we haven't beat the aussies in a while in that we think we are beaten before we take to the pitch. We aren't here to make up numbers and if we feel that we are then we shouldn't be playing in the first place.'"


We get beat by the Aussies because they're better then us. They've been beating up on us for 40 years now and that isn't due to our attitude. It's a bigger sport in Australia and the talent pool is far bigger. They get freakish athletes like Inglis, Folau and Hayne coming through their systems whereas in England kids like that would play other sports. Their league is intense which then makes their halves more rounded and their forwards more focussed and less error ridden then ours.

I say all that but that doesn't mean I'm a defeatist. Do I think we can beat Cronulla on Sunday? Yes. Do I think we could beat them on a regular basis if we played them numerous times in a year? Not a chance because they have too many advantages.

I'll be buzzing if we win on Sunday but I can't apologise for the fact that I'll feel reasonably content with a decent performance in a close defeat. The respective strengths of each comp makes that realistic.

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Quote: moto748 "On ticket prices

If we beat them Sunday you could talk to 100,000 people in the Wigan borough in 20 years and all of them will claim to have been at the game!!

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A few of my mates simply aren't attending games this season (World Club Challenge included), mainly due to last season's un-inspiring performances up until the final few matches of the season.

Bit disappointing as I reckon the team will put on a much better show for people this season (from the few games I've seen so far).

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RICHARDS IS SUPERMAN!!!! Wire_91 wrote:its your first final in about 8 years and now you ravin and rantin about it F**k off, and ill be going old trafford tomoz cheering on the saints and ill be writing on this forum givin you loads of shi* when your drying you eyes and the wire fan will be here handing out the tissues in the thousands, thats if you do take that many fans cause now it looks like its your fans who have jumped on the band wagon now your in a final, this time last year there was only 1000 people in the jjb and now its fillin up cause youve won the league hahaha proper true supporters you are:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_27542.jpg



Disappointing this hasn't sold out. £26 or £22 if you sit behind the sticks is not extortionate ( I paid £20 for Salford last week).

Could be a historic win if we pull it off. Is this game bigger than the Grand Final?

I think we can win.

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RICHARDS IS SUPERMAN!!!! Wire_91 wrote:its your first final in about 8 years and now you ravin and rantin about it F**k off, and ill be going old trafford tomoz cheering on the saints and ill be writing on this forum givin you loads of shi* when your drying you eyes and the wire fan will be here handing out the tissues in the thousands, thats if you do take that many fans cause now it looks like its your fans who have jumped on the band wagon now your in a final, this time last year there was only 1000 people in the jjb and now its fillin up cause youve won the league hahaha proper true supporters you are:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_27542.jpg



Question.

If we win on Sunday but don't make Wembley or Old Trafford is this season a success ?

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Quote: NSW "Question.

If we win on Sunday but don't make Wembley or Old Trafford is this season a success ?'"


In my opinion absolutely.

I still see our games against Manly, Penrith & Brisbane as the pinnacle of success for this club!

Every time I drive past Tesco towards the hospital, or I drive down from the flats in Scholes I'm reminded of that Wednesday night against Manly. Every time!

I want my lads to have a similar memory!

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Quote: NSW "Question.

If we win on Sunday but don't make Wembley or Old Trafford is this season a success ?'"


It's a superb question and one I'm struggling with.

I think I'd be tempted to say yes but because superleague is currently pretty weak I think i'd still have to say it would be a failure overall.

If we do win on Sunday, I can see us maybe then going on to struggle to pull ourselves together for the league campaign for a little while but ultimately we've got months to get it out of our system and that's why I would still expect us to get our act together in time for us to make a final. It could go the other way though (if we win) and our form goes through the roof with confidence surging through our veins only to then fall on our faces.

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Quote: NSW "Question.

If we win on Sunday but don't make Wembley or Old Trafford is this season a success ?'"

Yes, only relegation could take the shine off our season if we won the WCC this year IMO

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I was quite optimistic about this game until I looked at the Sporting Life site and saw that Ian Millward picks us to win. He doesn't have a great record with his tipping doesn't our Ian particularly where Wigan are concerned. He's not much better with his other forecasts either. For instance he tipped Huddersfield to beat Salford by more than 8 points in tonight's game. They lost by 10.

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Quote: NSW "Question.

If we win on Sunday but don't make Wembley or Old Trafford is this season a success ?'"


For me, yes, but it probably depends on your era. I think anyone too young to remember the Brisbane game is sick of waiting for one of our own to remember.

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Quote: Wigan RLFC "I think theres a few reasons why people aren't really interested.
1 - The state Super League is in
2 - Previous years like you've said
3 - and the biggest factor for me are ticket prices - I know standard match day prices are pretty expensive at Wigan but I've paid £26 for my season ticket seat (east stand) - I'd say thats quite expensive for a non season ticket holder never mind a season ticket holder. Wigan pricing themselves out of the game completely. I know plenty season ticket holders who aren't going because of the prices. Why pay £26 quid for a ticket when you can go to the pub, watch it for free and have a few pints and only spend 15 quid? I'm not saying they should dilute ticket prices so it becomes a bargain but come on, be reasonable, especially for ST holders and families.'"



This for me is the difference between us and rugby union. Union people would be horrified by those prices and wouldn't buy a ticket unless they were AT LEAST £50.

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£26 to see the best club side in Aus take on Wigan at their home ground is putting fans off? Personally I think its fantastic value

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Quote: stpatricks "£26 to see the best club side in Aus take on Wigan at their home ground is putting fans off? Personally I think its fantastic value'"


Agree. as a comparison thats the same price as a bog-standard Zurich premiership game at Saracens, and about £2 more than a regular season game to see Cardiff Blues.

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Quote: MattyB "In my opinion absolutely.

I still see our games against Manly, Penrith & Brisbane as the pinnacle of success for this club!

Every time I drive past Tesco towards the hospital, or I drive down from the flats in Scholes I'm reminded of that Wednesday night against Manly. Every time!

I want my lads to have a similar memory!'"



You need to get out more Matty! icon_wink.gif

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Quote: MattyB "In my opinion absolutely.

I still see our games against Manly, Penrith & Brisbane as the pinnacle of success for this club!

Every time I drive past Tesco towards the hospital, or I drive down from the flats in Scholes I'm reminded of that Wednesday night against Manly. Every time!

I want my lads to have a similar memory!'"


Couldnt go to Manly as my dad wouldnt take meas he said it would be too full. Never missed one since though icon_smile.gif

The Penrith game was strange as we were expected to win as we were seen as the best team in the world then

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