Better to try and fail (although can you really fail if you don't get an opportunity) then to have never tried at all.

Too many of England's top players have sat in a comfort zone rather then really go and test themselves and these are/were massively experienced guys. This is a young kid who's gone and taken a chance and it's not quite paid off but unlike the others the lad is young enough to give it another shot further down the line.

All the players you mentioned have proved themselves on the international stage
Peacock and Sinfield have captained their country and Sinfield has a golden boot
Those 2 plus Roby have beaten Aus and NZ with MotM performances
Hall has scored more than a try per game against Australia

Joe Burgess on the other hand has not scored against Aus or NZ
Whilst Sam Tomkins has never scored against Aus either
They played against the best in the world and didn't perform

Don't be jealous of us and Saints because we have actually retained some of our best talent

And look at you both now

Lmao

Regardless of what has gone on at Leeds or Saints, Burgess coming back is a superb move by Wigan. He's head and shoulders the best option to replace Charnley IMO. He knows the club, knows the culture, knows what's expected and can convince others that the grass is not always greener. Sam, Joel and now Budgie have all come back so there is clearly something very positive about our great club and hopefully those 3 can help towards player retention for years to come.
Back to Sinfield, Peacock etc, they were very good players but opted not to test themselves in the bigger competition in NRL. If they lacked ambition or not is not for us to say but they have left a huge hole at Leeds, a hole which the rest of the club appear to have fallen into!! Anybody got a ladder?

It's a funny old situation isn't it?! When you read some people on here (and especially on the other Wigan forum) Wane does this wrong and that wrong and is at fault for a list of things as long as both my arms yet anybody who leaves the club seems desperate to come back.

Him and the club can't be all that bad I suppose!

Correct! SW seems to get a lot of flack for bullying players, having his favourites etc but 4 very good players have all decided to come back. Can't be that bad can he?

Why hasn't IL given him another contract yet then?

maybe SW wants to review his options at the end of his term ? he's won all the cups already, so theres nothing new to do in SL.
who says SW wouldnt fancy a spell down under ?

I have thought the same thing. especially as we're talking about players that other top SL clubs (and Leeds) would have jumped at, given half a chance. But they chose to come back to the DW.

(dons tin hat)

if anything is going to stir up the anti-SW brigade around here.................

And all I ever hear in interviews is players saying how he demands high standards yet they all speak of him in glowing terms.

I'm not sitting here saying he's some sort of super coach but the disrespect he gets is pathetic at times. He's under huge pressure this year to win a trophy because with the squad we've got, we shouldn't be going three years without one in a league that lacks quality. It's to his credit though that he's kept us in a position fighting for them though when he faces constant player departures year in year out.

If we can get the cup or league on the board this year I could see us cleaning up over the coming years. The young players are developing nicely and the quality we'll have added over the recent seasons will really supplement them. We look to be showing some ambition in the recruitment department which is refreshing.

Haha

As Andy said a while back, quit feeding the troll!

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Hopefully he can get some game time and form before returning.