I saw some of the tries during our match on Sky. Some truly awful defending on show, most of he tries were crash overs after one pass from dummy half, or poor kick defence. I think Widnes will lose 2 or 3 of their next 3.

Should be a cracker next Friday!

Did Sandow not play today?

Yep, sums up my thoughts earlier in the the thread about Wire's lack of depth. Even without significant injuries, they can't afford to rest players.

Johnson is no Russell

Ratchford is no stand off

We have depth of personnel, just not depth of rugby brains.

Gidley is the glue in that team and the performances in which we have looked suspect coincide with no Gidley im the team

come on we were down one of the in form Full backs in Russell, our best hooker in Dwyer and also lost Gidley who is our organiser..... Ratchford would normally be a luxury no other team has that would fill one of those spots very nicely.. but when all three require filling quite rightly we are going to struggle..

in hindsight penny to fullback and Ormsby on the wing would have been safer but Jack Johnson is a real star for the future and his inclusion is not an indication of a weak squad. Dan sarginson at full back however...???

and struggle we did we lost by a conversion...

we are not all that.....and similarly if you overtake us in the league next week neither will you be....... we have both recently had better starting 13's than what took the respective fields today.....

but I'm still hopefull of a top 4 spot thank you...

Massive game this one as we are clearly the best 2 sides in SL so far
I'm hoping that home advantage will see us take the win

Yeah, shaping up to be the game of the season, certainly so far. Shame I can't make it, but I can't take another day off work this week.

Well I think you'll win this one because we'll have some very tired bodies out there.
Hull match took a lot out of us.
If Gidley and Russell are back we may have a chance, but I doubt we'll be fluent.
We've won a number of matches ugly this year and not played consistently well.
We hit a purple patch against Cas.

I'm looking forward to the match - in particular seeing how you try to deal with Sandow.
Some of the stuff he's done has been unreal. Yesterday he went for a drop goal from 40m out, totally cocked it up and the hull fullback just managed to knock it out of play stopping Lineham getting to the ball in the corner!!

Should be good.

That's pretty much what we'd say about our chances too, I reckon - substitute Saints for Hull and Williams and Farrell for Gidley and Russell. Too close to call, and while it may not be a classic for those wanting fluent, skilful rugby, it'll definitely be exciting!