Let down by the club? Hung out to dry? Are you serious ?

HE let the club down! HE let the game down! You make out like he was wrongly accused of something. He practically asaulted a player on the pitch with a act that's never been seen on a pro rugby pitch EVER! You do that in the street and you go down.

Imo wigan backed him to the hilt. Lance Hohaia didn't make a big deal of it even tho it totally ruined his grand final. Saints offered him all the support in the world.

I think it was pretty embarrassing the standing ovation he got. He's back from a ban and not a injury.

I can get it, if you lot do it when Sam returns to the club but FFS Flower was back from a 6 month ban

Calm down a bit. By today's standards I agree the club backed him but he still had to do the sackcloth and ashes routine demanded by the outraged classes such as yourself.

By me? Really ?


Check my posts on the Flower incident. I said it was bad and the 6 month ban was far to long. Id have give him 6-8 games.

His stats were good and proved his impact was good.

He was consistently our best prop for the last two years and I'd guess he will be again.

You've just contradicted yourself haven't you? On the one hand you say he's not been hung out to dry and then you go on to say that his ban was far too long? Ben is hardly a well known thug on the pitch and had a very good disciplinary record before the incident. None of this seemed to be taken into accoun.

Some of the talk at the time of police involvement and anger management classes went too far imo. It was a witch hunt at one point and I think the club could have backed him a little louder.

To be fair I do remember your previous posts. I was just reacting to your last one with all of the exclamation marks. I shall therefore remove you from the aforementioned outraged classes.

I don't think he was hung out to dry for his actions but I play and know things boil over. I like the tough part of the game so I'm not really into handing out 6 month bans but I can see why he got that ban and I beleive wigan made comment that they except the ban and fully deserved.

He's been backed by everyone and by no means at all hung out to dry and 100% Shouldnt have got the red carpet hero treatment he got. After all, you would have won the final by "30 points Easy" if it wasn't for him

Ain't you missing the point that he caused all this. He's on sky saying he didn't deserve the standing ovation he got as he let everybody down.