Well spotted Rogues, I fell into the trap of reading an Aus newspaper article and not checking that the web page was 4 years old, did Andy have another son because the son in the article is named John ?. Cheers.

I think there's two very different points in discussion which have slightly crossed over. One is about player development and the other is which position a player ended up.

I recall a Castleford fan , whom I was working for at the time , telling me that Kevin Ward started off at Centre

I think he was referring to Jonathan who is playing in australia..