And every club in SL can come up with instances involving St Helens going beyond the line of fair play. As it happens every club in SL can come up with instances of every other club in SL going beyond the line of fair play, every club in the NRL.......... Well you get my point.

All this bitterness towards Wigan is getting tiresome now. It's time a significant minority grew up and started to understand what the sport and what rivalries are all about. In one breath you praise Brown for whining about refs in the next you criticise Wane. Which one is it? You either like a bit of mind games or you don't.

He was not whining about refs, he was whining about Wane Whining about refs, therefore influencing a poor ref performance.

As for Saints going from bad losers to bad winners, at least we are starting to show some consistency at long last.

The problem is that wane reacted to it. If he just smiled and laughed then Brown would have looked the idiot.

Instead wane, after probably shouting at his players in the dressing room due to losing the only match he cares about, just couldn't help himself and came out with some daft quotes.

Wane is rattled.

Nah, Waney cares about finals, which we tend to win a few of these days. And whilst we are on the subject of "the only game people care about" Il tell you what was embarrassing, your lot time wasting and then celebrating like you have just won the grand final in a league game, against a Wigan side missing 9 first team players. How the mighty have fallen eh.......

Good to see you're dealing well with the defeat mate.

Correct me if I am wrong, but a couple of days pre match Wane quoted that this was like a Grand Final for him and his team, so obviously we celebrated as such.
Saints have been rubbish for a lot of this season but have been top of the league for long periods, so I wouldn't say the mighty have fallen, in comparison to say getting beat 75-0 or going back in history to when Wigan got relegated to the second division.
Wigan, Leeds, Castleford, Warrington, Huddersfield and Saints can all win Superleague this year, so its "not all Wigan".

This is the Wigan forum so I think you will find that "it is all Wigan" on here, if your not happy with that...tough.

All I have seen is people celebrate like they'd won a match. Sorry if that's hard for you to see.

It must be humiliating for you to keep bringing up the injuries excuse.

Love it, I was lambasted by all and sundry on here during the pre-season for "using excuses" when I dared to bring up Leeds' injury list in 2013.

Maybe that was because it was more or less the under 19s against arguably the best squad in Super League.

At what point I have used injuries as "an excuse" for losing??? I have said that I believe a full strength Wigan side is better than a full strength Saints side. The best team won Friday, however if we meet again in the play offs and we are both at full strength I wont be worried, id rather play Saints than both Warrington and Leeds.

When did I say it was all Wigan?? I said I believe Wigan, Wire and Leeds all have better full strength 17s than Saints, and yes I do believe Saints will drop off at the business end if the season, its just an opinion

Wellens celebrated like he'd won the Grand Final and the Euro Millions on the same night.

In fairness he'd put that much energy in to moaning like a school kid that he had to release it somehow.