Not really. If we were facing relegation, then the supporter's attitude would be completely different. Relegation threat brings out the best in the fans I think.

All we have to worry about is where we finish in the play-offs. You lot had far more to worry about.

I still think we'll finish either 4th/5th. We were in this position last season and still finished 4th. Getting Roby and Lomax back fit is vital. Lomax especially as he is probably as integral to what we do with the ball, as Tomkins is for you. I'm not saying he is as good (as he isn't yet), merely that he is very important and we are missing his presence.

We dont have cash flow problems, It's good you've sorted yours out though by selling off the [ionly [/iassets you have i.e players.

When did Saints last make a profit?

When did Saints last win without cheating the salary cap?
Was it three breaches?

When did Man City last make a profit? Do they have cash flow problems?

In answer to your question I dont know and dont care that much either as long as were not doing a Bradford. Clutching at straws now Rogues.

Ever since I got to watching kids tv (being a relatively new dad) I read all your posts with this fella's voice in my head

Whats Man City got to do with Stains?
Why not answer the question on when did Stains last win anything without breaking the salary cap?
Explain all please, starting with the reference to Man City and ending with the breaking of the salary cap in your most successful period

Man City reference is simple, it doesnt matter about making profit as long as your not going bust, we are a sports club not a bank. An easier reference might be Salford, I doubt they will turn a profit any time soon but I also suspect they will be along way from having 'cash flow problems'

I'd like to see Rogues evidence of his allegations of 'cash flow problems'

We had a technical breach of the salary cap due to a trigger in James Roby's contract I think .. about 5 k

Now let me ask you to explain how you cheated yourself out of a relegation again?

We didn't break that cap that year. We asked our players to defer payments to the following year. This was found to be 'Not in the spirit of the cap' HTH.

2006 CC winning side:
St Helens: Wellens, Gardner, Lyon, Talau, Meli, Pryce, Long, P. Anderson, Cunningham, Cayless, Wilkin, Sculthorpe, Hooper. Replacements: Gilmour, Roby, Graham, Fa'asavalu. From the BBC website
This 2006 side must have been under, Lyon played for nothing didn't he?

Now compare and contrast the cash flow control from a buying "cap breaching" side , to a team making a profit: Wigan. Lets look at the profit making clubs development of local talent:

What a fantastic Sunday morning read. You can just tell that No1 Saints' dog has taken one hell of a beating recently, poor fella.

Talking of crackheads, aren't there rumours going around both towns that two Stains players (without mentioning names of course) are under investigation by the RFL for use? One name in particular has been mentioned on three occasions this week all by seperate sources.

Id be very careful what you say. There is a thread on redvee that has a screenshot of a twitter account with a response from a player to the accusations, it's subject to legal proceedings. An idiot on redvee posted accusations and was instantly banned I suspect the Admin team here would do the same.

Wow , another amazing response from Platt Bridge's finest. The only thing that surprises me about you is you actually can read.

Saints Meltdown

Where is the Envy-ometer these days? Anyone got a link to resurrect it?