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I've always felt the whole Brigantes/Ultras thing more than a bit cringeworthy in whatever guise it took.

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What it ends up doing is splitting the fans i guess, it's like saying if you're not a Brigante then you're not a proper fan and it creates division

It's like Catholics and Protestants, fighting over the same belief, daft as a brush.

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Going through the thread there seems to be very little substance here... Some people who saw events, Trolls from other clubs, some people who were not at the ground ... Is there anything official on this? Or is it mainly jaw flapping about one or two individuals who misbehaved..

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Quote: Wigan Peer "Going through the thread there seems to be very little substance here... Some people who saw events, Trolls from other clubs, some people who were not at the ground ... Is there anything official on this? Or is it mainly jaw flapping about one or two individuals who misbehaved..'"


Thats the same about any report of supporter trouble in rugby league.

- Someone from club A makes a post saying I saw incident X from supporters of club B
- Other fans of club A come on saying disgraceful, club B should be ashamed of themselves
- Fans of club B come on to say remember last year incident Y from supporters of club A
- Other fans of club B come on to say club A is the scum of rugby league
- Fans of club A say no club B is the scum of rugby league

Meanwhile sponsors realise why they sponsor a proper sport in RU with well behaved supporters from better bred sections of society rather than rugby league the game followed by the dregs of society.

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Quote: Wigan Peer "Going through the thread there seems to be very little substance here... Some people who saw events, Trolls from other clubs, some people who were not at the ground ... Is there anything official on this? Or is it mainly jaw flapping about one or two individuals who misbehaved..'"


If you were at the game then you would have known. The fact the thread was started by one of your own fans suggests it is not trolling. Still at least Dave 26, Coventry Bear and 21 -12 are not on here saying the Ultras are the bees knees and everyone who criticises them have no idea what they are talking about.

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Quote: Durham Giant "If you were at the game then you would have known. The fact the thread was started by one of your own fans suggests it is not trolling. Still at least Dave 26, Coventry Bear and 21 -12 are not on here saying the Ultras are the bees knees and everyone who criticises them have no idea what they are talking about.'"


Where have i said anybody was the Bees Knees? Try rereading and not jumping to conclusions... Has any OFFICIAL complaint been made.. I'm not defending anyone, just asking, so don't jump down my throat...

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I was at the game, and what I saw was a fire/smoke bomb/cracker been set off in the stand where most Wigan fans were sat, then some people fighting and then a load of steward rushing to the scene.

Not trolling just stating what I saw.

Personally I have never seen anything like that at a rugby match (seen plenty of stuff at Football matches but that's not the point).

These so called fans should not be allowed in if what they want to do is that as above, I feel sorry for the vast majority of Wigan Warrior fans who have to suffer these fools.

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it started when 1 of the lads nr the drummer the ones with their hoods up/scarfes round their mouths decided to let a smoke bomb off .the people were i was sat ,told them they were out of order, they took exception to this and started throwing punches , thats when the stewards came and ushered them out. the sooner they stop trying to be pillocks the better, totally out of order

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Yes it did happen, after Wigan failed to break our defence and we scored an interception most Wigan fans got up to leave, the 'ultra's' or whatever they choose to call themselves let a smoke bomb off which caused stewards to run to the scene, other fans who were leaving must have offered an opinion on this action , to which the 'ultras' decided to start throwing punches at other Wigan fans and stewards and generally acting like animals ....they were apparently causing trouble in fast food restaurants in town before the game upsetting families too and leaving silly little stickers all over.
I'm not going downt eh 'they are football or bugger off to football' route cos these lot are Wigan RL fans or they follow Wigan RL ...the fact is they want to be seen as a spin off of European hooligan firms and are starting to act liek them !

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Quote: Durham Giant "If you were at the game then you would have known. The fact the thread was started by one of your own fans suggests it is not trolling. Still at least Dave 26, Coventry Bear and 21 -12 are not on here saying the Ultras are the bees knees and everyone who criticises them have no idea what they are talking about.'"


Not quite sure what I have said...

Care to explain?

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They are just a bunch of c***s. I must admit I didn't see much of the incident as I was sat at the opposite end of the ground but these lot are a disgrace to our club. The original concept was excellent however this has swiftly changed!

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Quote: Coventry Bears "Not quite sure what I have said...

Care to explain?'"


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Quote: Coventry Bears "I've always wanted to go to a Dortmund vs Schalke game and be in the terraced stand at the Westfalenstadion. Would be awesome! ( in regard to best European Ultras)

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The DW/JJB is going to be rocking next season! Most clubs will be in awe of what's going on. ( in regard to the Brigantes)

Is your avatar a new flag for next season? Any other new flags or do we have to wait till the new season to see them? ( a Brigantes flag with a lions head and crossbones on)

Yes I am signed up to the Brigantes site,


To be fair there was no drum yesterday, so a few of them might have struggled to follow. I think the Brigantes performances so far this season (albeit still good) are not as impressive as the start of last season. I don't know if something is different/less people are involved.
Still good though!'"


Is that enough for you !

Is Odem still around with his Brigantes Avatar.? He was always quite happy to give it large to those who were exppressing doubts about the Ultras.

All the hassle a couple of years ago when some Wigan fans and some opposition fans said they were worried where the whole ULtras thing was going and did not think it was a good idea, hounded and abused on the boards and told to shut up. Yet it is coming back to bite people on the Arris. The whole get the atmosphere going, the flags the singing all great. Tying it up into an Ultras thing was never going to work, and now it is left up to Drunken kids is only going to cause hassle for decent Wigan RL fans.

No doubt a critical post like this will bring out the usual knee jerk reaction of my club right or wrong, your just a troll blah de blah. But it was my view 2 to 3 years ago and i feel it is still a reasonable view that unless the issue is stamped on quickly it will deteriorate.

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Knew this would happen when they gave themselves a name like that. If theyd called themselves Wigan warriors supporters club or similar it'd have been ok probably but nope they had to do this. No need at all.

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Is that enough for you !

Is Odem still around with his Brigantes Avatar.? He was always quite happy to give it large to those who were exppressing doubts about the Ultras.

All the hassle a couple of years ago when some Wigan fans and some opposition fans said they were worried where the whole ULtras thing was going and did not think it was a good idea, hounded and abused on the boards and told to shut up. Yet it is coming back to bite people on the Arris. The whole get the atmosphere going, the flags the singing all great. Tying it up into an Ultras thing was never going to work, and now it is left up to Drunken kids is only going to cause hassle for decent Wigan RL fans.

No doubt a critical post like this will bring out the usual knee jerk reaction of my club right or wrong, your just a troll blah de blah. But it was my view 2 to 3 years ago and i feel it is still a reasonable view that unless the issue is stamped on quickly it will deteriorate.'"


Not quite following you to be honest, still struggling to understand how you can make a statement like "Coventry Bear and 21 -12 are not on here saying the Ultras are the bees knees and everyone who criticises them have no idea what they are talking about" and come out with all the above guff which doesn't back up your original statement.

Also my comments on the Brigantes/Ultras has been dug up from a good couple of seasons ago, a lot has changed since then.

Clearly you haven't grown up though...

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Quote: Durham Giant "Coventry Bear wrote

Is that enough for you !'"


You're going to have to come up with some different quotes from Cov Bears to defend what you originally said about them.

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