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What by saying league champions (which you got the hub cap for) or alternatively SL champions which Leeds won at Old Trafford-But yes Im wrong if thats what you want to read

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Quote: Damo-Leeds "It takes effort to keep the board active in the off season. You'd think now would be a time not just to reflect on the season gone by but to reflect on rugby league as a whole over the years. There's always something to talk about but if no ones there to start them then things become very quiet indeed.

If you want to take heart from something this year then it should be Brigantes efforts to make the match day a more enjoyable experience. This group of people will be a year older next season, more experienced and in some cases more mature - more of the undesirable elements kicked out!

It'd be nice if RLFANS had its own Brigantes to make all our online experiances just a little bit better.

Have a good evening everyone and all the best for 2013!'"


Never let RL get in the way of a good moan! Have a good new year yourself Damo

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Quote: Cruncher "For me, British RL is now facing one of the biggest crises in its entire history. Unless some way is found to attract a lot more investment into the British game - and soon! - we are in big, big trouble.'"


The RFL should take a look at darts and how popular that's become. What is a pub-sport, is now one of the most entertaining on TV, don't get me wrong - I enjoy watching the darts, the World Championships has had me on the edge of my seat sometimes, but the only reason I enjoy watching it is because it looks entertaining, there is plenty of atmosphere and it looks like a bloody good day out.

2 blokes throwing 3 arrows at a board.

If the RFL, Sky Sports and SL can somehow portray the same image of RL to audiences, it doesn't matter where their from, what their primary sport is etc, they will watch and they will come to games. Thus attracting new investment, thus attracting wider interest.

It's all well and good the RFL saying "Put this team here because they'll probably do OK", but to solve an issue like the one we have at the minute, you need to go back to the absolute basics. I'm not saying that it would solve all our problems and RL will march on to dominate - far from it. However, if RL can take a leaf out of Darts book, it may go a long way to improving the situation.

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The upping in popularity of darts is due to it becoming a TV sport and its SKY coverage isn't it that has turned the game around? Don't watch it so don't reallly know. The TV makes it look great.
We have the second highest viewing figures for SKY Sports so surely in that regard SL is doing ok. Our trouble is we can't get major sponsorship and advertising on the back of it.

Immediately we have to look for more ways to increase revenue from existing sources as well as continue to search for sponsors/advertisers.
One way is to increase gates at current fixtures and perhaps drop poorly attended matches when better games are available.

First, I would start with the Magic. Transfer it to the C Cup at the last 16 stage and bring SL clubs in at that point. Eight games with a minimum of six between SL clubs. Within a year or two that Cup Magic weekend may well sell out with little or no discounting. Increased crowds and improved revenue.

Second, The Cup rounds including Magic to take place on the first weekend of each month. People in general are paid from work towards the end of the month so have the C Cup the first weekend of each month when we have money in our bank accounts, pockets and purses. That way whether it's this year, next year or whatever year we would know when the C Cup would start and when the Final would be. Last 16 first w/e in June, Quarters 1st in July, Semi 1st in Aug with the Final Bank Holiday Weekend. I'm pretty convinced that if we did that attendances for all C Cup rounds and matches would improve massively as would be revenue..

Third, look to replace game that are poorly attended by ones that will be very well attended. It is rumoured that the World Club Challenge will be extended to three clubs from each hemisphere. That's three extra games for our top clubs and elite players. International Rugby is the way forward and the WCC could add to RL's international profile very well indeed. Though something has to give to prevent burnout.
The fixtures to go are the Magic out of the SL, as mentioned.
One round less in the C Cup, as mentioned.
Two games less in the play offs. Either top three with L Leaders to the GF with 2 & 3 playing off for the other final place. Or top four as has been mentioned in other replies, 1 v 4, 2 v 3 and winners to the GF. Either will give a two week play off and not four weeks as at present which is too long and with poor crowds.

Overall basic thoughts, replace poorly attended matches by games that will have great crowds and maybe sell outs thereby increasing the crowds and revenue.

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we have to be very careful about the 'success' of darts.
despite the size of winning the world championship, there is very little money in the game, and therefore very few full time pros.

darts has been able to increase its profile enormously (although lets wait and see what happens when Taylor retires), but without putting much money into the pot to support full time pros.

RL need a business plan which tales it well above what darts has achieved. And to put it into perspective - if you went onto the street in May and asked the average punter to name a darts player other than Phil Taylor, what do you think the response would be ? let alone ask them to name one under 40 !

Darts is a game still driven by 2 competing organisations, very few full time pro's, good viewing figures for 2 weeks a year and mostly filled with amateurs. That sounds to me like exactly where RL is going, rather than where we need to be aiming.

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Quote: ShortArse "we have to be very careful about the 'success' of darts.
despite the size of winning the world championship, there is very little money in the game, and therefore very few full time pros.

darts has been able to increase its profile enormously (although lets wait and see what happens when Taylor retires), but without putting much money into the pot to support full time pros.

RL need a business plan which tales it well above what darts has achieved. And to put it into perspective - if you went onto the street in May and asked the average punter to name a darts player other than Phil Taylor, what do you think the response would be ? let alone ask them to name one under 40 !

Darts is a game still driven by 2 competing organisations, very few full time pro's, good viewing figures for 2 weeks a year and mostly filled with amateurs. That sounds to me like exactly where RL is going, rather than where we need to be aiming.'"


And it's low cost sport? to televise. You don't need about twenty cameras at a game.

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Quote: the hedonic calculator "In our squad we have some absolutely fantastic players - individuals who would be selected for and perform admirably for any team in either code - and we are on the brink of a new season. The forthcoming season will give us moments of triumph and heart-break. We will see exhilerating rugby from our team and from other teams. We will laugh together in the stands and we will grumble over the errors, mistakes and missed opportunities until the bell for last orders rings in our ears. Nothing has changed. I love Wigan and have done since my father took me to my first game back when we were a relegated team. I truly hope we will earn some silverware this year, but if we don't then I will be a happy supporter simply because I will have been thoroughly entertained from start to finish. I'm sorry but I cannot find it within myself to get miserable and jaundiced about the future simply because we might not have recruited to the demands of some supporters. We watch a sport. We love that sport and we love our team. My life would be incomplete without it.
God, I'm excited - bring it on!'"


Well said. I have been, indeed still am, disappointed in the way the RFL has let our sport become little more than an extended pre-season followed by a four or five round cup competition. That's not what I want for our sport and is, quite frankly, a travesty. That said, it's still the best sport in the world (imo, of course) and we are blessed to be able to claim our town has one of the, if not THE, biggest name in the sport. I live in hope that the powers that be waken up and see the writing on the wall one day but until then I will continue to support and enjoy the greatest club in Rugby League.

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Quote: Rogues Gallery "And it's low cost sport? to televise. You don't need about twenty cameras at a game.'"

nor will it cost much i imagine to play or organise as its all individuals who dont require management, stadia or specialist training facilities.

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I agree with the OP's sentiments, its been very quiet on here but then again its been very quiet across the board - RL wise. You go on BBC Sport > Rugby League, theres not much gonig on there either aside from the odd contract renewal here and there and Paul Wood's lone soldier...

It could be said that no news is good news however; i would rather have it quiet than awash with "Blummin rugby union, pinching Josh Charnley", etc.

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Quote: wire quin "Did I say SL champions? But hey if thats what you read.......'"
We may have finished top of the table after the regular rounds but we were not League Champions

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What were you if you weren't champions of the league?

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Quote: wire quin "What were you if you weren't champions of the league?'"



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Quote: wire quin "What were you if you weren't champions of the league?'"


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Quote: wire quin "What were you if you weren't champions of the league?'"


League leaders. Hence why we got the league leaders shield.

14 years of having a Grand Final to determine champions and still people want to put their heads in the sand - only in rugby league, which is why the game gets the profile its fans deserve.

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