I don't know how to read this,who is off to Parrammata. Goulding or Hock ?.

Another bit of news (not worth starting another thread) Sean Anscough is leaving Bradford for Aus as well.

This seems to be gathering pace and if it happens I'll be a worried man about our hopes in 2013 and further tbh. What is the club doing wrong that is making these lads leave? Or is it the complete opposite and we're just doing a lot right meaning other clubs/sports are looking at our players?

Whatever the reasons are Ian Lenagan, Shaun Wane and Kris Radlinski need to find some answers quickly. Our side has been re-built over the last few years but it's falling apart quicker then we built it in the first place. I think we all know Tomkins will leave within the next year or two and we needed to be in a really strong position when that happened but the way things are going that won't be the case. We look like being a young side, losing their best player and spearhead who'll have followed a whole raft of experience out of the door.

I've had full trust in Lenagan since he took over and have always thought he'd see us through most things but he's got one hell of a challenge on his hands in the next couple of years. He must stop the player drain or we risk going back to square one!

I'm not sure even he'll be able to fix that sadly.

What happened between them?

If Hock goes to the NRL, we really need to have some top quality signings lined up, when in all likelehood Sam will be off next year as well.

Hock owes Wigan some loyalty for standing by him & id be surprised if he wanted to go, but I imagine the wages will be higher.

If he goes, our pack becomes even weaker, when I think most agree its weak already.

+1

Well, lets all pray that Piggy knows what he's talking about... This on Twitter a short time ago.

mark riddell ‏@riddell009
@PhilWilkWIG gaz would never leave Wigan!

So is this from Philk Wilkinson discussing it with Piggy:

Phil Wilkinson ‏@PhilWilkWIG
@riddell009 just been told he's keen on the move too. Looks like you may have another babysitter to call on soon!

Wilkinson also said he will put the question to Hock at tomorrows England press conference if he is off.

I take it that was the reply... Well, we shall see if he is willing to comment tomorrow. The general consensus with these things is that if they don't want to talk about it, something up? Right?

Would he get a visa for Australia with him being banned for drugs?

He never got convicted criminally so don't think it's an issue.

There may be nothing in this but Hock was the only Wigan player not to have an interview on Wigan TV last week from our England contingent.

Each and every one had a 3-5 minute slot talking with Kelly O'Donnell about the Wales game and alll things England bar Hock. I know he's not really a player that's media friendly but you don't see much of Faz or McIlorum either and they both gave one.

May be reading too much in to it.

I read a great article about how much Wigan had invested in Hocck's rehabilitation & education during his absence. It would be a shame if he paid them back by leaving, though if he needs to escape his demons.

I think trying to escape your demons by moving from the relative obscurity of British RL to the gold fish bowl of the NRL in Oz is like jumping from the frying pan into the fire. I also think the kind of care given to him by Wigan may well not be so easy to find elsewhere so IMO he is likely to be in more danger if he leaves the fold where he is very well understood.

In any case what is in your head is going to stay there whatever continent you are on.

If he is bothered about people being a bad influence on him here there will be plenty of people waiting to try the same with him down under. Ultimately the only way he is going to avoid falling into the same trap again is by his own strength of character, not by changing which competition he plays in.

Seems some have a rather weird view Dave of the NRL and OZ as a whole. There have been many scandals over the last few years where many players have had their contracts terminated. Its like Australian is like an episode of Home and Away or Neighbours. If Hock has a problem then just going to the NRL will not be the end of the problem. Was it not coming home from tour down under that he admitted he started taking drugs.

If the rumour about him going are true then its much bigger than just a habit there is more i believe. We had the rumour about supposed injury before the Cats play off game and the fight with Fielden apparently. Hope he stays but seems from all the rumours he will go.

Unless Wigan instigated the move by offering him out to NRL clubs which is what I am hearing was the case

I find all the rumours about him falling back into his previous bad ways that got him banned very hard to believe. If he had done so the club could not deal with it by offering him up for transfer in the knowledge he had made that very same mistake twice. Hock will also be one of the most tested players in the competition due to his past record and of course he is playing for England again which exposes him to further testing. So if he had been naughty again he'd be banned already and there is no way the club would or could protect him from this and then ship him out.

If the club has instigated a move as suggested in another post I reckon it must be for other reasons.

If Hock has instigated it due to the idea he needs to leave his past behind then as I alluded to in my previous post he is kidding himself if he thinks that will fix it and it would be a pretty poor way to return the investment and faith shown in him by Wigan and a lot of the fans who wanted him to be given a second chance here.

There is a third more mundane option - he just wants to go for more money!

And of course it could all just be pure rumour with nothing in it. I guess we will find out soon if Phil Wilkinson can get it out of him.