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The structure's are there in place for the players to use. It's just down to how they execute it. Obviously if Micky/Finch/Tommy/Sam make a poor decision then the move breaks down. Wane has basically used to same moves/structures that were already in place from Mag which he got from Melbourne working under Bellamy. Melbournes structures have improved slightly since then but that is irrelevent to us. All this garbage off we only have one move is a load off nonsense, if you actually watch the game they execute many variations off spread plays with either Micky finding the half with a dummy runner or two props take the ball to the line and hit the half "around the back" from then he has 3 options as does Micky/finch/tommy/sam...
1.run the ball
2.hit the forward on a short lead (like finch has done with hock many times this season)
3.go round the back.

If each half and dummy runner does his job this will create space for either a lead or more often than not. Sam who has finished many tries last season and this season from doing exactly that.
A new structure is not needed. It works. It just needs to be executed properly.
The only time this structure doesn't work is if...
1.Forwards don't win the floor which results in a slow play the ball and allows line speed from the defence to neutralise the attack.
2. Stupid mistakes i.e Micky getting sent off, bad decisions, knock one etc..

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Quote: pies-r-us "I agree with much that has been said, for me it’s not overly complicated why we’ve had a bad drop in form, the loss of Tommy yes, but I’m not a big advocate of the one man makes a team brigade. no I think the main problem is not so much the backs, nor plan A, B or Z, I may be being over simplistic but I like simplicity in RL, for me the main reason is that the forwards have not been anywhere near as effective in the last couple of months. The platform for the backs to do their stuff has diminished; and the go forward is not as aggressive or as dominant as it was. Without a very good pack performance no matter how good the rest, you can forget it! The lack of good field position, and ok the weak kicking game from the backs doesn’t help that, but I still maintain that 80% of the problem, IMO is in the forwards.'"


Spot on. The forwards by and large have been off the boil for some time now and arent laying the foundations and without them setting the platform any RL team will struggle. If the fowards can up their game, get their aggression back and make the hard yards then the rest will come.

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Quote: NickyKiss " Lima, Mossop, Dudson, Hansen, McIlorum etc were ripping teams to shreds and the backs could have played in dinner suits '"



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IMHO the backs ought to dress in top hat and tails. Spats optional.

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Quote: Jeff the God of Biscuits "But the point is, surely if some of the opposition is poor, as you say, you would expect a team like Warrington or Saints to rack up similar scores than us?

And the only team we have not beaten all year is Warrington, once when we beat ourselves due to poor discipline, and once because Wire played like it was their GF and subsequently lost the following week to one of the bottom 2 sides.

Or are you saying that every team apart from us is poor, at which point your argument about our attack becomes invalid, as we're the runaway best team in the comp?

Our attack isn't perfect, and has become disjointed with the injury to Tommy, who was one of our major pivots for most of the season. The attack is not broken, and to try and go with a completely different style of attack, than the one that has worked all year, so close to the end of the year, would be one big risk to take.

If it ain't broke, don't fix it.'"

We lost that particular game to ts rotation policy thus season not an excuse he put a team out he thought was capable of winning, evidently not as he has done a few times but in hindsight it has reaped its rewards from our (wire) point of view as we go into the playoffs lookin an minimal ievious poster mentioneany points you have racked up ,we ate more the capable ourselves as proven last season. Ts wanted the shield last season obviously he wanted a gf appearance but to no avail, I only hope we don't choke again but I'm hoping his tradition of taking us one step closer each year comes to fruition and we get there and hopefully the long awaited Wire v Wigan final will happen

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Shock, horror the forwards play well and lay the platform and we play well and win convincingly. Our attack looked sharp and precise and it was a much better all round performance. The backs can never do anything unless the pack can get on top, or at least be competitive, as anyone who has played or watched RL knows and this has been the problem in recent weeks. I dont know why Wane has got slaughtered by some after every defeat or poor performance, even after week 1, rather than the players where the blame lies. It seems that some didnt want Wane in charge and wrote him off and now just look for any reason to have a dig because they have already decided that he isnt the man for the job.

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Please alert me to which point in that sentence is untrue? You beat us after playing like it was a grand final, and you lost the following week against London. These are facts.

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Quote: Jeff the God of Biscuits "Please alert me to which point in that sentence is untrue? You beat us after playing like it was a grand final, and you lost the following week against London. These are facts.'"


TBH Jeff. You're talking b*llocks. How the hell would Wire know how to play in a Grand Final?

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