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| Not as funny as watching Finch spit his dummy at the time though!
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| Quote Thelonius="Thelonius"Not as funny as watching Finch spit his dummy at the time though!'"
Which wasn't as funny as Atkins getting selected for England
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| Quote Thelonius="Thelonius"Most people appear to be accepting the fact that the ball must travel backwards in relation to the player who passed the ball.
Now bearing this in mind, watch the try again, especially the replay, and concentrate more on the players (particularly Hodgson) and see where Hodgson (who is running at an angle and certainly not speeding up) is in relation to Monaghan when he (Monaghan) recieves the ball. This may help

The pass looks to be ridiculously forward because the the camera angle where the ball appears to be clearly travelling forward and straight at the camera. But in relation to Hodgson the ball does appear to go backwards!'"
Sorry but black is black and white is white; your explanation is like the picture, blurred and out of focus. The pass was forward, Wire won well, we lost. Why does it matter so much to Wire fans? I don’t know any Pie who thinks it would have made any difference.

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| Quote pies-r-us="pies-r-us"Sorry but black is black and white is white; your explanation is like the picture, blurred and out of focus. The pass was forward, Wire won well, we lost. Why does it matter so much to Wire fans? I don’t know any Pie who thinks it would have made any difference.
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It's chip paper now, so makes no difference. But for what it's worth I thought it was a clear forward pass at the game, I thought it was a clear forward pass watching it on Sky when I got home, and I still thought it was a clear forward pass when I watched the Super League Show. In fact, I still do think it was a forward pass, but not as clear as I first thought.
Watching it back, regardless of the camera angle and apparent trajectory of the ball, Hodgson is in front of Monaghan as he receives the pass so the ball must have gone backwards relative to Hodgson. It is this, rather than general ineptitude or a conspiracy against Wigan, that may well have stopped Ganson, or his touch judge, from calling it forward.
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| Quote Thelonius="Thelonius"It's chip paper now, so makes no difference. But for what it's worth I thought it was a clear forward pass at the game, I thought it was a clear forward pass watching it on Sky when I got home, and I still thought it was a clear forward pass when I watched the Super League Show. In fact, I still do think it was a forward pass, but not as clear as I first thought.
Watching it back, regardless of the camera angle and apparent trajectory of the ball, Hodgson is in front of Monaghan as he receives the pass so the ball must have gone backwards relative to Hodgson. It is this, rather than general ineptitude or a conspiracy against Wigan, that may well have stopped Ganson, or his touch judge, from calling it forward.'"
I think the problem I have with this pass is that Hodgson was running at and angle, and not flat out. So we have a ball that 100% traveled forward over the ground and in my opinion also forward when taken relative to Hodgson's speed towards the try line v's the travel over the ground. I simply don't see that Hodgson would covered the same distance towards the Wigan line before the ball got to where it is shown in the photo.
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| The easiest way I found watching the pass on tv was that Hodgson passes the ball two meters one side of the line and Monaghan catches it two meters in front of the line.
Why the TJ's can't see this I don't know, perhaps he did, then told Ganson who ignored him.
The forward pass should be judged by the VR.
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| Quote Father Ted="Father Ted"The easiest way I found watching the pass on tv was that Hodgson passes the ball two meters one side of the line and Monaghan catches it two meters in front of the line.
Why the TJ's can't see this I don't know, perhaps he did, then told Ganson who ignored him.
The forward pass should be judged by the VR.'"
But it could still go backwards relative to the player which is the ruling not the ground.
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| Quote Father Ted="Father Ted"The easiest way I found watching the pass on tv was that Hodgson passes the ball two meters one side of the line and Monaghan catches it two meters in front of the line.
Why the TJ's can't see this I don't know, perhaps he did, then told Ganson who ignored him.
The forward pass should be judged by the VR.'"
I'm Sorry, but as has been explained pretty clearly earlier in this thread, this has nothing to do with whether or not a pass is forward.
Imagine Usain Bolt was a rugby player and when running flat out covers 10m every second. On the 20m line he passes the ball to Yohan Blake inside him and the ball travels backwards at 1m per second compared to Bolt (a perfectly legitimate pass). The ball is still travelling forwards over the ground at 9m per second, so if the ball is in the air for half a second before Blake catches it, he will receive the ball 4.5m in front of where Bolt passed the ball.
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| In all honesty, does anyone really care anymore? Forward or not (which it definately was  ) we would of still lost the game, rather convincingly as well.
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| Quote 100% Warrior="100% Warrior"In all honesty, does anyone really care anymore? Forward or not (which it definately was
) we would of still lost the game, rather convincingly as well.'"
I don't care too much about the one on Saturday because it had no bearing on the game, but I definitely do care about the ridiculous number of forward passes that have been let go this season.
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| Quote WARRIORCRAIG="WARRIORCRAIG"I don't care too much about the one on Saturday because it had no bearing on the game, but I definitely do care about the ridiculous number of forward passes that have been let go this season.'"
And there are a small number of clubs who get away with it on a regular basis.
It 'has' to be being coached!
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| It was a forward pass but not by much and certainly nothing like some are making out. There were more obvious forward passes in the game that went un-noticed
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