Thats correct, both sides were poor. But one team had spirit. People moaning it was a conspiracy is ridiculous when you look at the fact.

Zeppelin or blimp, a dirigible by any other name would smell as crap. (Shakespeare, Super League XVII act 19.)

Rock 'n' Roll.

Sam never played at widnes away wigan lose

Sam never played last night wigan lose

Its the same at wire with Briers they run the games and can pull you out the mire

Leuluai never played in these games either..... We have missed Leuluai far more than Sam imo in terms of our structure and attack.

Various other regular first teamers were missing from both these games and things like injuries and sending offs have occurred which has disrupted the team badly for example McIlorum being sent off last night and Goulding going off injured early in both games. Also in these games we still scored 36 points and 22 points so still scored enough points to win anyway, stupid mistakes and errors cost us as much as any one player missing. This all may not fit in with your troll but it is the case.

Pretty sure Tommy didn't play in that Widnes game either...

Tommy was the "most" missed player throughout the game but let's not kid ourselves that we didn't miss Sam. He's pretty much the only player we've got who can create something from nothing and turn a close game like that in our favour. We are having a torrid time with injuries and really need to get some bodies back!

Just watched the Salford v Wire game, and that's cheered me up a lot, not just because of Wire being even worse than us, but Matty Smith's performance (if he is indeed coming here).

Looked good, and if people here though we were bad, Dire lived up to there name...

Wire had 8 players out wigan had 2 out thats the difference plus we was away from home and you was in your pie dome.

Leuluai
Tomkins
Lima
Richards
Hansen
Prescott
Tuson

All would play the majority of games, Goulding went off after 10-15 minutes. Funny way of counting to 2 in Wireland.

2 out ?