But he gave the penalty, rightly or wrongly, and so there should have been a card should there not?

Regards the Myler one, some Wire fans are saying it was a voluntary tackle (personally I thought he tripped him), but the ref deemed it wasn't and so Myler jumping on his back should have been a card should it not?

He upended a Rovers player for us(some dispute to who it was) by hanging him upside down,there was a sharp intake of breath as we waited for the pile driver,but he thankfully lowered said player to the ground.A totaly unpredictable player,and I have to thank Wigan for taking him off our hands.

Lauaki last night did exactly what most said he would do in the big games. Lose his cool.

Yes he did. I have defended his signing as I though he would add something different to the team and would add something to the pack and I do think he has done okay so far.

However going off last night, which is backed up by what he did in the Hull derby games, he is going to be a liability in the big games and can we really afford to have him in the 17 for such games. I dont think we can. This is even more so imo when we also have Hock in the team, who is also known for his indiscipline, and having both Hock and Lauaki in the 17 is just asking for trouble and it will cost us in the big games imo. Hock is a much better player and so you can put up with the brainfarts, mistakes and indiscipline but for me having Lauaki in there as well is too much of a risk.

I agree. People were pointing to the fact his penalty count in the stats for Hull was quite low and nothing out of the ordinary.

Well you know what they say, lies, damned lies and statistics.

If those penalties cost you games he does not have to give very many away to be a liability as he proved last night.

At 27 he is an experienced player so I am afraid this is what you get with him and it can't be put down to lack of experience.

Why is Lauaki getting picked over Lima? Baffling.

Wane's ego concerns me. He's trying his best to justify HIS signing & it's to the detriment of the team.

Shocking from Lauaki last night, but Wane signed him. He knew what he was capable of. I blame him!

hes not is he? hes starting, but i thought that was as prescott/mossop/lima are the senior and more reliable props, so bringing lima on with flower maintains a certain amount of stability.

Hopefully that is the case, but I'm pretty sure Wane said before the season started that players doing well will start, those that don't perform will be dropped to the bench or the under 20's.

I don't like having a thug with no brains in our team, especially not two of them.

Having intelligence as a quality is more important than speed, power and skill as an RL player in my opinion.

This is why I'm not a fan of either Lauaki or Hock. Lauaki for obvious reasons evidenced last night plus the fact he's hardly a world beater anyway. As for Hock, despite all his skill and power doesn't he just wipe all that out with the constant knockons, penalties, crazy decisions etc?

As far as I can remember everyone was panicking when he received his drugs ban in 2009. And as far as I can remember we actually improved as a team - we became far more solid and gave little away.

When Hock was banned other players ended up giving away more penalties. O'Loughlin, Tomkins, Hoffman, Bailey etc.

Hock makes errors but he also has the potential to win games and he's been one of our best players so far this year. Westwood is worse than Hock in terms of conceding penalties and making errors yet is considered one of the best players in Super League.

Hock is an excellent player to have.

Lauaki on the other hand, does very little during games and anything he does do seems to be stupid.

We will have to see what happens assuming he gets a ban. I doubt we will miss him at all so if other players step up and play well he ought to find it very hard to get back in the team assuming we have no injury worries.

The trouble is he has a four year deal (God knows why we gave him a deal like that given his form at Hull) and as he is supposed to be Wane's signing I fear he will be back in the side far too readily.

So were his minutes on the field

There isn't room for 2 hot headed forwards in our team that play the game on the edge and run the risk of costing you points.

Hocks a justified selection because he's superb and he's worth the silly stuff but when he plays id keep Lauaki away from the side. He's been pretty good so far but he got it totally wrong last night and cost his team big time. He simply can't be allowed to get away with it to the point where if I were Wane I'd want to fine him.

Spencer or Dudson should get a shot on Friday.

your not wrong some pretty underwhelmed pie eaters from the initial rumours of his signing... notice the post from dany1979 after watching him play for hull