Yes I know. It's the blind faith in Simmonds that made me chuckle.

its got some catching up to do, at the minute its in 9th place...........

A lot of the U20's are out on DR, loan and been promoted haven't they?

very strange, i was only thinking about this after the game on saturday. although i'm insanely happy and proud to be a wiganer (for the Tics as well as the Warriors) and am genuinely thrilled to have such a keen and hungry wiganer at the helm of our current squad, i can't help but feel its a little overly cocky.

i just hope he doesn't end up with egg on his face as we fans will bear the grunt!

we do have a great squad but its not a great squad that wins anything. its about winning the right games at the right times for me -. take for example out 2 losses to saints in the play offs last season.

maybe its simply because we have gone from a completely different personality in Mags last year to Wane, i don't know. i do love his desire, but i hope he doesn't put too much pressure on the players because nothing is perfect.

Lot of truth in that, remember, Leeds (who lost at Wembley) went on to win every game to the end of the season, coping with a C Cup final loss and going on to win the Grand Final, playing (IIRC) as many games as us, injuries to key players is the main stumbling block I believe.

I'm with Shaun 100% .. Any coach who doesn't believe in his team should look for another job.A coach who expresses doubts puts doubt into the minds of his team

I think that Wane is making nothing more than a bold statement of intent here, he is merely stating what every super league coach would aim for, no great headlines here for me?

May'be even Betts at Widnes may have whispered these same words too?

At the end of the day these spoken words end when the trophies are handed out and i'm very proud that Tony Smith,Bluey and Brian Mac have all actually delivered the ultimate prize of GF success' and on a regular basis too, although all have subsequently failed in bringing CC final success to the Rhinos, is this a feat that will prove to be almost the Holy Grail?

IMO it will take a very special squad that could ultimately deliver the Challenge cup, The League leaders shield and win the GF all in one season

To get a squad of players to peak throughout entirely the whole SL season would be a very hard task, but not impossible

"We cannot achieve perfection. Perfection is impossible. But if we strive for perfection, we may achieve greatness" - Vince Lombardi

'Doo be doo be doo, do do do do do, do bee do bee doo' - Frank Sinatra.

That's baby-makin' music, that's what that is.....