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| Quote DANN="DANN"Dont get me wrong I am a huge fan of Sam. He is a wonderful running talent and a top bloke to boot. However to be a top class RU full back or half back you need to be able to kick from hand. With respect Sams kicking game is not the best.'"
All you need to do is boot it out on the full from F/B in yawnion, I'm sure he'd manage.
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| Quote DANN="DANN"He hardly ever played at full back in union and cant even remember one occasion in league. You can get away with it on the wing which is where his best position was in both union and league. Numbers 10 and 15 get you around the park.
Sam will eventually go to union but I dont think hes ideally suited for it. Wingers or Centres are the only players that hardly have to change their game to switch successfully'"
Neither do I.
However, Sam firing at 60% is a much more potent attacking force than most in the England RU setup. He will go, and we shouldn't blame him for doing so.
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| Quote DANN="DANN"He hardly ever played at full back in union and cant even remember one occasion in league. You can get away with it on the wing which is where his best position was in both union and league. Numbers 10 and 15 get you around the park.'"
Jason Robinson hardly ever played full back and you can't remember one occasion in league.
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and I'm surprised Saints fans haven't been on this thread already to remind us of the 2000 GF, where the great man played at FB.
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| Quote DANN="DANN"Dont get me wrong I am a huge fan of Sam. He is a wonderful running talent and a top bloke to boot. However to be a top class RU full back or half back you need to be able to kick from hand. With respect Sams kicking game is not the best.'"
Sam's kicking game may not be world class, but he still has a very good kicking game. Its more to do with him being that good as a natural runner that his good kicking goes unnoticed, much like his defence (which is another myth about it being poor)
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| Quote sally cinnamon="sally cinnamon"Surely Rangi Chase might be a shout and even perhaps Tommy Leuluai and George Carmont?
The best Kiwis in England usually get picked up, Henry Paul, Vainikolo and Hape.'"
It's worse when it is English players though. They produce players of that standard all the time down under. Marshall and SKD are probably better players than Paul and Hape. Australia lost players like Hunt and Folau, but YowYeh has come through and they already had world class talent like Hayne and Inglis anyway. We can't produce players over and over again of that standard.
If Sam were to leave, how long would it be before we see another player of that talent come through so young? Look at the time difference between Edwards and Tomkins....
Yes I would like to see Hunt, Folau and SBW still in rugby league... but at the end of the day, they have produced players of this quality over and over. We don't seem to be able to do the same in England.
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| Press conference soon. Announcement of Joel leaving and a major player signing a new and mega improved offer. Watch this space.
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| Quote Pieman="Pieman"neither was Jason Robinsons but he didnt do to bad......'"
Whilst no sane man would denay Robinsons talent, when he swapped, RU were still embracing their full time professionalism.
Whilst rugby league, imo, still produces grater rugby talent in the backs, there are players in union who shouldn't be sniffed at, such as Ben Foden.
As a Saints fan, I struggle to decide how well Eastmond will go. I'm sure he'll rip it up at club level, but I wonder whether he'll be considered too small for the international scene. His ability under a high ball could be an issue and, although he's from what might be considered a tougher code, I don't see him getting up and dusting him self off after some big fat frenchman's ran his studs down him in a ruck.
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| Quote Odem="Odem"I seriously hope Sam plays crap in the 4 nations. I couldn't really care less if England do pants again, it will be no different to what I am used to. I am going to Wembley with some mates but I seriously find myself excited by the prospect of watching Lockyer in one of his last ever games and seeing Marshall run riot, I am not looking forward to seeing our national team play. '"
I don't quite get this. On the one hand you've got Sam who, by the reckoning of many, is the brightest prospect we've had in ages yet you're only excited at the prospect of seeing Lockyer and Marshall. Hell, I'm a Leeds fan and I'd rather see Sam do well for England than seeing the others do well for their respective sides.
Ask yourself this: which is most likely hurt ST? Being booed by Leeds fans at Headingley or a situation where Wigan fans aren't remotely excited by the prospect of seeing him play? Surely, particularly with union sniffing around, you lot should be getting behind the lad?
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| Quote Mr.No.It.All="Mr.No.It.All"Press conference soon. Announcement of Joel leaving and a major player signing a new and mega improved offer. Watch this space.'"
How soon, days/weeks?
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| Quote Mr.No.It.All="Mr.No.It.All"Press conference soon. Announcement of Joel leaving and a major player signing a new and mega improved offer. Watch this space.'"
Pryce?
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| Quote Mr.No.It.All="Mr.No.It.All"Press conference soon. Announcement of Joel leaving and a major player signing a new and mega improved offer. Watch this space.'"
Improved offer for/from who/what?
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| im guessing Mr No It All will prove once again that he actually Knows F**k All
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