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| Quote: kirkstaller "Well with respect you're wrong, the ball does need to be down. Please take it from someone who has been studying the rules for many years and who has himself awarded an 8 point try in the past.'"
Seeing as you seem to be an all-seeing sage and refereeing oracle, do you know why Jeff Lima got sin-binned today? |
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| Quote: kirkstaller "I agree, it is a little silly. I'd prefer it if the rule was opened up a little to include incidents like today's.'"
Completely agree, but then we'd have less to argue and moan about if the rules made sense!  |
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| Quote: Dave26 "Fair enough. but if diving to put the ball down isn't in the act of scoring a try, what is?'"
Correct.
He was 'OVER' the line and was looking to plant the ball when hit by Raynor. |
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| Quote: endoman "Should have been an 8 point try, ie kick at goal after the conversion from under the sticks. No penalty try as the try was scored.
IIRC we had one free kick, and one penalty in the entire game, a new record low?'"
We have free kicks now? |
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| Quote: dirtbag83 "Seeing as you seem to be an all-seeing sage and refereeing oracle, do you know why Jeff Lima got sin-binned today?'"
The TV replay was inconclusive. |
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| Quote: mirfieldrhino "We have free kicks now?'"
Actually, a free kick is the technical name for the second phase of a penalty kick to touch  |
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| Quote: kirkstaller "Well with respect you're wrong, the ball does need to be down. Please take it from someone who has been studying the rules for many years and who has himself awarded an 8 point try in the past.'"
 I'm an ex-ref, but thanks for your cv |
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| Quote: MattyB "Correct.
He was 'OVER' the line and was looking to plant the ball when hit by Raynor.'"
Say someone was sliding over the line with the ball grounded and was elbowed/kneed by a covering defender.
Prime example of an 8 point try. |
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| Quote: kirkstaller "Well please take advice from someone who enforced the laws of the game as recently as yesterday afternoon.'"
 why not just see who can spit further, or burp the alphabet? |
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Ok........
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The only example I have to hand of an 8-point try was Leigh vs Catalans in the previous round of the Challenge Cup.
rlGo to about the 39th minute to seerl
Whilst you can't really see what happened, it looks like a Leigh player dives at JPB's legs to try and stop him scoring, he puts the ball down and falls over the Leigh player.
Prime example of why, if Kirkstaller is correct about the application of the rules, the rules are daft. That doesn't seem to deserve the extra kick at goal. Today's incident certainly did.
Some of us may remember an incident at Farewell Sunday, the last match at Central Park where Danny Moore tackled (I think) Kevin Iro as he was scoring. When I watched the Sky footage afterwards, they clearly discuss the possibility of an 8-point try for it, but conclude there was no penalty to give after consulting the video referee.
If it had actually come down to being the difference between winning and drawing (or losing), then this debate would rumble on for years. I expect instead the rule will be "tweaked" for clarity, and in future a similar incident would DEFINITELY receive the extra kick for goal.
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| Quote: kirkstaller "Well with respect you're wrong, the ball does need to be down. Please take it from someone who has been studying the rules for many years and who has himself awarded an 8 point try in the past.'"
Fair enough, still seems strange that a team can have a bloke sent off yet no penalty awarded to the opposing team. |
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| Quote: endoman "Fair enough, still seems strange that a team can have a bloke sent off yet no penalty awarded to the opposing team.'"
I see where you're coming from, but like I said earlier, if a player gobbed off at a referee during a conversion and was sent off, would you expect a penalty for that? |
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| Quote: tank123 "Should have been an 8 point try.
Think Ganson got that part of it wrong.'"
He does not know the rules. I've seen other examples of refs not knowing the rules this season. |
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