Whilst I understand that the purse strings are tight, some of the RFL's decisions since the Super League began have been mind boggling. If the finances are run the same way, then I'm not optimistic about their management of the game and it's moving forward.

Cant disagree with a lot of this..compartmentalising the pundits / commentators and giving them specific roles and slots within the programmes would help tidy things up, and stop the repetition. The arguing between them is also cringe worthy at times - Clarky especially (who is usually right) often digs his heals in and can be really condescending to the others with different opionions. The coverage in general though is of a very high standard and costs SKY a fortune to set up (twice)each week.

FWIW I spent some time with the sky team at a live broadcast and got shown around - it is an amazing setup. There are 80+ people involved for up to 3 days for each game, with hotel costs etc for crew memebers, thay have a travelling canteen to feed the army of staff, and hire a £10m truck for the production of each show - NOT CHEAP!

Whilst the pundits have many critics - we shouldnt dis the support of the broadcaster (it would be hard / impossible to replicate with an alternative channel).

I think it's companies house.
Woody woody will know just send him a pm.

10% I believe, which IL stated was a fantastic deal compared to the outlay we would have as ground owners.

I published a lot of the info in October on here - haven't got time to find the link but have a look at threads I started then.

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It's companies house, they have a service called WebCheck, you can just pay online with a credit/debit card, the fees are quite cheap.

Interesting, thanks. Wouldn't disagree with him on that, if we have got a deal where all the club is paying is 10% of gate receipts plus food and drink takings then that is pretty good for a stadium as good as the DW.

It still would be great to understand the breakdown of revenue, the accounts are abbreviated small company accounts so you can't see much detail.

It may be that the next set of accounts will have much better turnover figures and will show a healthy profit, I guess we should remember that IL won't have had much time to turn things around in the 09 financial year.

Freak talking sense!!!!

rlhttps://www.leaguefreak.com/news.phprl

Well am I being naive or can we work out our gate receipts.

The cost of renting the DW stadium - which is based on 10% of gate receipts according to Ian Lenagan - was £189,932 as of 2009. If that figure is based on 10% of our matchday receipts then our total money from gate receipts is £1,899,320 as of 2009. With our total turnover being £4,586,325, that would mean that £2,687,005 was made up of broadcast revenue, sponsorship and merchandise sales. Incidentally, it cost Wigan Athletic £496,230 in stadium costs in the same year it cost us £189,932 in renting costs.

I'm a complete novice when it comes to interpreting accounts so I could be wrong, but if all the above is correct I think we have an excellent deal.

I read that as well, first time I've ever agreed with him on anything I think. Usually he cant wait to slate SL and I thought he would have used this news as new ammunition to do just that!

Not necessarily if latics are getting all the corporate revenues as well, the running costs of these could explain the difference- In addition do latics pay for the running of the drinks and confectionary facilities? While this may seam like a burden initially, if this is an area that sources latics additional profit to us then it suddenly looks a lot more preferable. In addition, dont forget we only play 13/14 games per year whereas latics will play 20-25 games at home per season - thus their costs are bound to be more than ours.

Re. league freak - hes spot on the money - The RFL need to act and do something about this- My suggestion would be essentially go cap in hand to the NRL and explain that we need them to help us increase exposure over here for the good of the game particulary internationally- We're already miles behind them, but what use if we get even worse and everytime we play them they start smashing us like a developing RL nation like france / tonga etc. Thats going to kill the credibility of the game.

We need to be getting them over here for an expanded WCC for a start - get it played here every year initially to help us with the disparity in the TV deals, so we have another product. I would then sell this to ESPN rather than sky, keeping SL on Sky initially, but at least we'd then we'd build up some barganing power for both of the competitions when renewal came up.

We should also arrange a one State of Origin game to be played at wembley IMO (every year if possibe) and follow the example of the NFL- If they can fill wembley for a real minority sport in the UK surely we can for SOO. That would also give us some opportunity to increase our presence in London and also look to increase investment in the game and develop our London side (who as an aside need to desperately ditch harlequins and get their own identity).

Will the RFL do this though - No, they'll all play ostritches, pretend everything is ok and the game will be on its @r5e here in 5 years! I really hate the administrators of our great game!

I agree with your maths obviously but would be surprised if our gate receipts were quite that low, even taking into account child/family ticket prices and that we have 10,000 season ticket holders. £1.9m works out at £9.05 a ticket on average if you assume 14 games and 15,000 average attendance. Anyone have any inside info?

Remember its an average. For example my season ticket for 14 games is 120 because im a student and my brother's is 26 because hes under 16 so its probably right because of those reasons. we have alot of elderly fans too and their tickets will also be 120.