www.therfl.co.uk/~rflmedia/docs/ ... 2007_%20(2).pdf SECTION 10 KNOCK-ON AND FORWARD PASS Heading the ball 4. It is illegal to head the ball in a forward direction. Just because the Sky dumb dumbs don't know the rules, that's no excuse for the rest of us.

www.therfl.co.uk/~rflmedia/docs/ ... 2007_%20(2).pdf SECTION 10 KNOCK-ON AND FORWARD PASS Heading the ball 4. It is illegal to head the ball in a forward direction. Just because the Sky dumb dumbs don't know the rules, that's no excuse for the rest of us.

Saints used the heading tactic to score tries a few years ago, forget who, but I think the rule changed as a consequence.

John Harrison if memory serves me correct?

Don't you go on .... okay so it counts as a knock on .... now sit down, relax, and enjoy a replay of the game like me!

And that is very likely - to almost certain - to happen. James Graham is believed to have signed a three-year deal with the Bulldogs and Puletua has family commitments back home. Saints fans can harp incessantly about who they were missing and how well a few 19-year-old lads did, but take James Graham and Tony Puletua out of that side and Wigan would have absolutely flogged them. Graham and Puletua are the fulcrum of everything that Saints do well. Take them two out of that side and Stains are in trouble.

Are you not forgetting the best player in superleague so far in the machine that is James Roby.

So you're pinning your hopes on James Roby? He can't work behind a beaten pack. I expect his performances to drop considerably if you fail to replace James Graham and Tony Puletua with any considerable top quality forwards.

Dear Saintsfan .... I know we are from Wigan and therefore a bit slow to take things on board ... but I think we understand by now that you had a young team out, that our first try was from a forward pass and that Hoffman should be banned for the rest of the season. Afterall your fellow fans have been on this site making excuses for the past four or five hours.

And you take Richards and Tomkins out of the wigan team and they are mid table at best

Most of the players mentioned as missing having been part of the perennial runners up. What part of taking full strength sides at the business end of the season, do you not understand? The comment wasn't about today, which in the grand scheme of things means absolutely nothing, regardless of Saints gallant performance in defeat. Just to emphasise the point, a team of youngsters played in a team decimated by injuries and actually beat a pretty much full strength Saints side on Good Friday in 2003 against all odds. They were lauded as a golden generation at the time, but nothing came of it and only one of those players remained part of the squad that won the GF in 2010 (O'Loughlin) and he remains the only player to have won a trophy of the 17 in the period since. Thats why I take the Saints hyperbole about youngsters in a one-off game with a pinch of salt - there's only Lomax out of the new lot that I have any envy about (Graham and Roby otherwise) and I'd take our collection of home grown talent in the team and squad every time moving forward.

Swap Richards, Tomkins and Wigan for Graham, Roby and St. Helens and you have the same sentence. Every team has its good players that they rely on and their squad fillers.

2008
It's probably important that the Senior team also manage to win the GF? I wonder which group of youngsters from those three academy seasons have already done that 5.484375:5