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| Quote: Deano G "Tomkins is already a better player than McGuire was at his peak. Tomkins is still learning and maturing, his potential is immense - I'm sure he will go on to become one of the all time greats of RL in this country, assuming he can stay injury free.'"
When Sam has played 250 games for his club, and scored nearly 200 tries, and has 4 grand final winner's rings, then you may have a point.
I suppose you think he's now also better than Sean Long ever was ?
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| Quote: vernon "When Sam has played 250 games for his club, and scored nearly 200 tries, and has 4 grand final winner's rings, then you may have a point.
I suppose you think he's now also better than Sean Long ever was ?'"
Well, whatever Longy did after leaving Wigan doesn't count for anything important, so yeah...
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| Quote: Deano G "Tomkins is already a better player than McGuire was at his peak. Tomkins is still learning and maturing, his potential is immense - I'm sure he will go on to become one of the all time greats of RL in this country, assuming he can stay injury free.'"
Why, thank you. Your response proves my point.
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| Quote: vernon "When Sam has played 250 games for his club, and scored nearly 200 tries, and has 4 grand final winner's rings, then you may have a point.
I suppose you think he's now also better than Sean Long ever was ?'"
Not sure how demonstrating the achievements of either player would prove who is/was the better player. That is measured by other criteria, passing ability, tactical thinking, kicking, positional play etc. Basing the assessment according to your criteria would mean Sean Long was a better half back than Andrew Johns.
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| Quote: vernon "When Sam has played 250 games for his club, and scored nearly 200 tries, and has 4 grand final winner's rings, then you may have a point.
I suppose you think he's now also better than Sean Long ever was ?'"
More meaingless tosh from a self-admitted poor quality troll.
Ian Gildart and Ian Lucas played hundreds of games for Wigan and had loads of cup final winning trophies, medals etc. And all they were were solid, unflashy club-players.
As for 200 tries, you need to give the lad a chance. If he'd already had half a dozen years in the top flight he could be well on the way to scoring that many.
Any other points you'd like to make that we can laugh at you for? You've already done pretty well so far.
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| Quote: Cruncher "More meaingless tosh from a self-admitted poor quality troll.
Ian Gildart and Ian Lucas played hundreds of games for Wigan and had loads of cup final winning trophies, medals etc. And all they were were solid, unflashy club-players.
As for 200 tries, you need to give the lad a chance. If he'd already had half a dozen years in the top flight he could be well on the way to scoring that many.
Any other points you'd like to make that we can laugh at you for? You've already done pretty well so far.'"
He will be telling us how good Richie Matchers is/was!!
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| Quote: Ian Roberts Closet "He will be telling us how good Richie Matchers is/was!!'"
Thats M A T H E R S
Compared to Amos Roberts, he played like Kris Radlinski
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| Quote: Boris "Not sure how demonstrating the achievements of either player would prove who is/was the better player. That is measured by other criteria, passing ability, tactical thinking, kicking, positional play etc. Basing the assessment according to your criteria would mean Sean Long was a better half back than Andrew Johns.'"
Please direct your response to the poster who made the original fatuous comparison.
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| Quote: Cruncher "More meaingless tosh from a self-admitted poor quality troll.
Ian Gildart and Ian Lucas played hundreds of games for Wigan and had loads of cup final winning trophies, medals etc. And all they were were solid, unflashy club-players.
As for 200 tries, you need to give the lad a chance. If he'd already had half a dozen years in the top flight he could be well on the way to scoring that many.
Any other points you'd like to make that we can laugh at you for? You've already done pretty well so far.'"
You better have a word with your mate Deano who made the comparison in the first place. I was just trying to give it some context.
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| Quote: vernon "When Sam has played 250 games for his club, and scored nearly 200 tries, and has 4 grand final winner's rings, then you may have a point.
I suppose you think he's now also better than Sean Long ever was ?'"
awful attempt
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| Quote: vernon "You better have a word with your mate Deano who made the comparison in the first place. I was just trying to give it some context.'"
No need. Your attempts to prove him wrong were meaningless, and rightly lampooned.
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| Quote: Remarkable_Rhinos "Firstly.. Hi!
Secondly, this isn't a troll, as hopefully you'll be able to tell!!
Great game on Friday. Would've snapped your hand off for a draw prior to kick off so, obvious disappointment aside, I'm forcing myself to be happy we got a point. ), in which case Sam will have some competition).
Tomkins is a superb player, he's a very special talent and can do things that other players can't. Added to that is an incredible will to win.
If I were to sum Sam up I'd say he is like a more naturally gifted version of Shaun Edwards. I know that is very, very high praise indeed and some Wigan fans might regard that as blasphemy, but that is how good this lad is.
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| Here's one for ya. He is joint top clean breaker in Super League (despite us being a match behind) and on average per game he is the top tackler buster in the league. Tough little cookie!
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| Quote: vernon "When Sam has played 250 games for his club, and scored nearly 200 tries, and has 4 grand final winner's rings, then you may have a point.'"
That's irrelevant. Ricky Bibey has two CC winners medals. That doesn't make him a good player.
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