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[quote="King Street Cat":1wa9s43t]Some might look at this as being harsh but I think it's fair. When are the Rugby League going to stop persisting with this fantasy expansion. If it hasn't worked by now, it never will! I'm all for reaching out to a wider audience with our game but not at the expense of historical clubs in the homelands.[/quote:1wa9s43t]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_6731.jpg



Quote: Dave26 "Bloody stupid post. Can everyone afford to go to Cardiff for a game of rugby? Of course those who went will defend it, they obviously like the idea because THEY WENT. This doesn't make them any better or any more qualified to have an opinion. It's people like you with the high and mighty attitude that annoy me, every fan of Wigan or any other club is a fan of the greatest game. If all those who weren't there buggered off like you say the game would be dead in water.'"
That is probably the stupidest thing I have ever heard. How can people who didn't go possibly be as qualified to have an opinion as those that did.

If you couldn't make it for financial reasons, other commitments or whatever then that's a shame. Even if you just couldn't be bothered to go, I don't have an issue with that, it's a long way if you don't want to watch all the games. But if you didn't go, don't sit there and say it should be scrapped. That's what is pathetic.

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Quote: headhunter "That is probably the stupidest thing I have ever heard. How can people who didn't go possibly be as qualified to have an opinion as those that did.

If you couldn't make it for financial reasons, other commitments or whatever then that's a shame. Even if you just couldn't be bothered to go, I don't have an issue with that, it's a long way if you don't want to watch all the games. But if you didn't go, don't sit there and say it should be scrapped. That's what is pathetic.'"



Was it really that much more expensive than for a run of the mill away game?

Take away the accomodation (I only went for the Saturday), I spent £12.50 for the ticket and £21 for the coach. The rest was on food and drink, yes the Stadium beer was £3.60, £3 for a pie, £4.10 footlong hotdog. But at the same time we found a bar about half a mile away from the ground which was £1 per pint and £3.99 for a Chicken & Bacon Burger and Chips.
I decided on the day to drink moderately (think I only had 3 pints all day) and came home having spent next to fook all, certainley not much more than say a trip to Harlequins / Hull. Having Hoffman as first try scorer in the coach sweep helped a little. icon_biggrin.gif

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What's the rumpus, Tom? [quote="Pemps":1dso5atj]I can't confirm Bennett's exact words but I believe they were along the lines of "Strewth Ian, I wouldn't touch him with yours. He's a flammin' Gala". [/quote:1dso5atj] [quote="Wigan Peer":1dso5atj]I keep my bin under 30mph to avoid fines... :CURTAIN:[/quote:1dso5atj] [quote="MattyB":1dso5atj]you cant tell me they are all busting for a turd. [/quote:1dso5atj] Please see for me if she's wearing a coat so warm To keep her from the howlin' winds.:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_44075.jpg



Quote: MattyB "Was it really that much more expensive than for a run of the mill away game?

Take away the accomodation (I only went for the Saturday), I spent £12.50 for the ticket and £21 for the coach. The rest was on food and drink, yes the Stadium beer was £3.60, £3 for a pie, £4.10 footlong hotdog. But at the same time we found a bar about half a mile away from the ground which was £1 per pint and £3.99 for a Chicken & Bacon Burger and Chips.
I decided on the day to drink moderately (think I only had 3 pints all day) and came home having spent next to fook all, certainley not much more than say a trip to Harlequins / Hull. Having Hoffman as first try scorer in the coach sweep helped a little.

You tight get icon_wink.gif

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Ey I had a Stadium hotdog and pint I'll have you know. icon_lol.gif

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BTW - The sign in the stadium said

Pint - £3.60
Pie - £3.00


Pie & Pint Deal - £6.60


How is that a fooking deal? icon_lol.gif

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What's the rumpus, Tom? [quote="Pemps":1dso5atj]I can't confirm Bennett's exact words but I believe they were along the lines of "Strewth Ian, I wouldn't touch him with yours. He's a flammin' Gala". [/quote:1dso5atj] [quote="Wigan Peer":1dso5atj]I keep my bin under 30mph to avoid fines... :CURTAIN:[/quote:1dso5atj] [quote="MattyB":1dso5atj]you cant tell me they are all busting for a turd. [/quote:1dso5atj] Please see for me if she's wearing a coat so warm To keep her from the howlin' winds.:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_44075.jpg



Quote: MattyB "BTW - The sign in the stadium said

Pint - £3.60
Pie - £3.00


Pie & Pint Deal - £6.60


How is that a fooking deal? icon_lol.gif

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Seeing as the attendance is less than the average for a normal weekly round over the last 5 or 6 years and the fact it hasn't grown despite this being the 5th year, it's pretty simple what needs to happen to it. The fact it distorts the fixture list as well adds to my opinion it needs putting out of its misery.

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[quote="King Street Cat":1wa9s43t]Some might look at this as being harsh but I think it's fair. When are the Rugby League going to stop persisting with this fantasy expansion. If it hasn't worked by now, it never will! I'm all for reaching out to a wider audience with our game but not at the expense of historical clubs in the homelands.[/quote:1wa9s43t]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_6731.jpg



Quote: Wigan/Leeds Andy "Seeing as the attendance is less than the average for a normal weekly round over the last 5 or 6 years and the fact it hasn't grown despite this being the 5th year, it's pretty simple what needs to happen to it. The fact it distorts the fixture list as well adds to my opinion it needs putting out of its misery.'"
Are you equally as driven by numbers and figures in other areas of your life?

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Quote: headhunter "Are you equally as driven by numbers and figures in other areas of your life?'"


If you mean do I base an opinion on a number of things, including taking account of certain facts - then yes.

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Quote: nohalfbacks "Your attitude just about sums up the situation. You have never been but feel qualified to pass objective comment! Get off your backside and support the game or bugger off and watch another sport.'"


I support the game by buying a season ticket for Wigan, going to most away games, attending internationals when they are over here, buying international and club merchandise, supporting & donating to charities such as the steve prescott fund and the wigan warriors community fund, taking my nephew to play and train for st pats, buying him season tickets and merchandise, introducing friends and family to the game. Just because I dont believe in some stupid idea of the not so magic weekend which has NOT been a success for 5 years on the trot now does not mean that I should bugger off and watch another sport. Its idiots like you who tell fans like me to bugger off an watch another sport that are the problem, not me! Get of your high horse you idiot.

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[quote="King Street Cat":1wa9s43t]Some might look at this as being harsh but I think it's fair. When are the Rugby League going to stop persisting with this fantasy expansion. If it hasn't worked by now, it never will! I'm all for reaching out to a wider audience with our game but not at the expense of historical clubs in the homelands.[/quote:1wa9s43t]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_6731.jpg



Quote: 19 Leagues "I support the game by buying a season ticket for Wigan, going to most away games, attending internationals when they are over here, buying international and club merchandise, supporting & donating to charities such as the steve prescott fund and the wigan warriors community fund, taking my nephew to play and train for st pats, buying him season tickets and merchandise, introducing friends and family to the game. Just because I dont believe in some stupid idea of the not so magic weekend which has NOT been a success for 5 years on the trot now does not mean that I should bugger off and watch another sport. Its idiots like you who tell fans like me to bugger off an watch another sport that are the problem, not me! Get of your high horse you idiot.'"
No, it means you should try it before you criticise. Tell me on what grounds you don't believe in it, or think it has been a failure.

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Quote: headhunter "No, it means you should try it before you criticise. Tell me on what grounds you don't believe in it, or think it has been a failure.'"


A success would be a packed stadium each day. A success would be glowing reports, nobody coming back to say a bad word about it, players talking to the media about how much they love the day and how they cant wait to get out there. The Magic weekend has never been a success.

Its a failure because the stadium is more than half empty every time, we have actual players coming out and slating it in the media (last year, cant remember who it was) every year its just a slip-a-thon on the pitch because of the abuse its taking, we have journalists and pundits slating it in the press, people coming back with bad reviews year after year (just look at this thread, theres a few who have been and said they wont be going back)

Its embarrassing to watch. It makes our Sport look so insignificant compared to the success of RU.

Its been tried, tested and failed, the RFL should just scrap it and try other ideas. Some things work for them, as far as this goes, it doesnt.

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[quote="King Street Cat":1wa9s43t]Some might look at this as being harsh but I think it's fair. When are the Rugby League going to stop persisting with this fantasy expansion. If it hasn't worked by now, it never will! I'm all for reaching out to a wider audience with our game but not at the expense of historical clubs in the homelands.[/quote:1wa9s43t]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_6731.jpg



Quote: 19 Leagues "A success would be a packed stadium each day. A success would be glowing reports, nobody coming back to say a bad word about it, players talking to the media about how much they love the day and how they cant wait to get out there. The Magic weekend has never been a success.

Its a failure because the stadium is more than half empty every time, we have actual players coming out and slating it in the media (last year, cant remember who it was) every year its just a slip-a-thon on the pitch because of the abuse its taking, we have journalists and pundits slating it in the press, people coming back with bad reviews year after year (just look at this thread, theres a few who have been and said they wont be going back)

Its embarrassing to watch. It makes our Sport look so insignificant compared to the success of RU.

Its been tried, tested and failed, the RFL should just scrap it and try other ideas. Some things work for them, as far as this goes, it doesnt.'"
Maybe next year you can go and see how much of a failure it is for yourself icon_wink.gif

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Quote: headhunter "That is probably the stupidest thing I have ever heard. How can people who didn't go possibly be as qualified to have an opinion as those that did.

If you couldn't make it for financial reasons, other commitments or whatever then that's a shame. Even if you just couldn't be bothered to go, I don't have an issue with that, it's a long way if you don't want to watch all the games. But if you didn't go, don't sit there and say it should be scrapped. That's what is pathetic.'"


Please read my posts in this thread and tell me where I've said the magic weekend should be scrapped?! icon_biggrin.gifOH:

I actually said I think it is a good idea, just not implemented in the best way. I attended last year as I stated earlier, so I have a fair idea what the weekend is about (I know that was Edinburgh but it's the same idea). So you are saying people who don't attend, but do support OUR sport can't have an opinion? You're trying to make out that I think it's a terrible idea and this really isn't the case.

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Quote: 19 Leagues "A success would be a packed stadium each day. A success would be glowing reports, nobody coming back to say a bad word about it, players talking to the media about how much they love the day and how they cant wait to get out there. The Magic weekend has never been a success.

Its a failure because the stadium is more than half empty every time, we have actual players coming out and slating it in the media (last year, cant remember who it was) every year its just a slip-a-thon on the pitch because of the abuse its taking, we have journalists and pundits slating it in the press, people coming back with bad reviews year after year (just look at this thread, theres a few who have been and said they wont be going back)

Its embarrassing to watch. It makes our Sport look so insignificant compared to the success of RU.

Its been tried, tested and failed, the RFL should just scrap it and try other ideas. Some things work for them, as far as this goes, it doesnt.'"



It's a vicious circle really, you decided not to bother going to the game as you heard poor reports from last season and by doing that you ensured that one seat at the millenium stadium was empty. Now think that there could be 30,000 other Rugby League fans who thought the same as you, which made what would have been a 3/4 full stadium and a complete success instead a 3/4 empty stadium and a pretty poor showing again.

What the RFL need to work hard at is persuading you (and the other 29,999) like you to get to the game despite the negative reports of this and the last few years.

I'm not sure if the RFL can turn it around, which is a shame really.

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WSL2024 14 FeatherstoneW6-32York V
WSL2024 14 Hudds W36-0Wire W
CH 26 Barrow34-14Whitehaven
CH 26 Bradford16-14Batley
CH 26 Dewsbury16-28Swinton
CH 26 Doncaster30-14Widnes
CH 26 Featherstone6-20Sheffield
CH 26 Wakefield20-4York
NRL 28 Canterbury22-24Manly
L1 23 Midlands24-22Workington
L1 23 Rochdale30-18Hunslet
Sat 14th Sep
SL 26 Hull FC4-58Salford
SL 26 Catalans12-8LondonB
SL 26 Huddersfield0-66Warrington
CH 26 Toulouse38-18Halifax
NRL 28 Melbourne37-10Cronulla
NRL 28 NQL Cowboys28-16Newcastle
Fri 13th Sep
SL 26 Leigh0-24Hull KR
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Mens Betfred Super League XXVIII ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wigan 27 721 336 385 44
Hull KR 26 693 311 382 40
Warrington 26 684 319 365 38
Salford 27 550 547 3 32
St.Helens 26 584 370 214 30
Leigh 26 548 386 162 29
 
Leeds 26 514 462 52 28
Catalans 26 451 423 28 28
Huddersfield 27 468 658 -190 20
Castleford 27 425 735 -310 15
LondonB 26 317 862 -545 6
Hull FC 26 324 870 -546 6
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Betfred Championship 2024 ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wakefield 24 892 256 636 46
Bradford 24 618 373 245 32
Toulouse 23 662 340 322 31
Sheffield 24 594 472 122 28
Widnes 24 513 433 80 27
York 25 613 439 174 26
 
Featherstone 24 566 472 94 26
Doncaster 24 470 527 -57 23
Batley 24 378 513 -135 20
Halifax 24 475 617 -142 20
Barrow 23 418 648 -230 19
Swinton 24 446 606 -160 18
Whitehaven 24 414 806 -392 16
Dewsbury 25 308 821 -513 2
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