You find it mystifying because you think it's a mistake. But you're not as qualified to have an opinion on this as Michael Maguire is, or, given that you don't have contracts and salary info to hand, as Ian Lenagan is. And maybe they don't think it's a mistake (and I know which side I would listen to).

You're trying to dress it up in sensible terms now, but this is just a continuation of your Ainscough obsession. You can't possibly have a pop at Maguire because you'd look ridiculous, but to you IL is still fair game. So therefore, when a decision is made that you feel you're on safe ground disagreeing with, you come flying out of the blocks with "this has got IL's fingerprints on it" nonsense.

Can't you just be content that things are going very well at the club, and that the guy you volubly criticised has a significant responsibility for it?

Chuffed about Deacs signging up again.

Not sure about the Pryce one, but he offers cover if nothing else. I just hope if hes given a chance, he wont be booed before he even touches the ball.

great news about deacon. as for pryce , mmmmmmmmmm . All i will say on that one is that there is certainly some negative feedback regarding his fitness and application in pre season, but its early days yet.

No change from the original plan then, bar his extra year playing. Thought it was a bit strange.

Has there been any official confirmation about Pryce's extention?

I am very happy if it comes of. I know it is very easy to say "in madge we trust" but in all honesty (apart with a couple of squad selection errors) has he even given a reason to doubt his jugement?.

I think with Pryce, people judge him on what they expect to see from him as opposed to what he does on the field.

I dont think however that Pryce will ever make it at Wigan. Even if he does turn into a good winger/ he will still divide fans opinions and get heckled by our own support, win lose or draw.

Confidence is a hard thing to come by and he will never get it here because he does not get the support he needs from certain sections of our support.

The best thing he can do is have a good season and get himself a gig somewhere else.

KP reminds me of Audley Harrison.

The talent is there, without question. But to realise that talent he needs heart, guts. Thats something no-one can instill, train or coach into him. It's upto him to get that. Personally I think he's a waste of time - but I seriously want to be proved wrong.

That's an important factor in my view. Pryce has now become one of those players who - inexplicably to me - become hate figures for certain sections of the Wigan crowd.

You can be disappointed with the guy, you can expect more of him, you can feel that he's been lucky holding onto a contract, but why some people seem to revile him, and use the most choice language when discussing him, baffles me. As long as he's wearing a Wigan shirt, he should be given at least a modicum of support.

That day when Noble very foolishly pitched him into the middle of a torrid game at stand-off was ridiculous. Pryce was totally unprepared for such a difficult challenge, and the booing every time he touched the ball showed monumental ignorance by those responsible.

I'm not that impressed, either, by those who are currently using this unofficial announcement to have a pop at either Maguire or Lenagan. I bet the fans of most other clubs in SL would willingly swap their coach and chairman for ours. Yet some folk are getting het-up because Karl Pryce might have been given a year's extension. Talk about not knowing when you're born.

I don't believe that's true. We've had enough players that have been (usually rightly) criticised for underperforming, only for fans' attitudes to change as their performances improve. I don't think KP would be treated any differently to them, should he improve in the same way.




That's the wrong way around. He has to do something to deserve it first. Wigan fans will always react to on-field performances, whether positively or negatively. The same argument was used for both KP and Mathers, but in both cases it was the poor performances that led to the criticism, not the other way around.

Is it really? Apart from one great pass against Huddersfield (i think) and 4 tries against the Crusaders I've seen nothing of him to suggest he's anything more than just a big lad with a bit of pace. I thought I'd seen the last of him in a Wigan shirt when he cried off with a bruised leg against St. Helens but the coaching staff think he's worth another 12 months and I'll give him a fair chance again.

Karl Pryce reminds me of the lad in the film 'the blind side'.

If only we could get Sandra Bullock on the coaching team to find what makes him tick

I am as qualified to have an opinion as you are and on here that is all that counts. This is a place to debate the goings on at the club and if you don't want to see differing opinions they why do you bother coming here?



I do not think it was any secret that the coaching staff were not impressed with Pryce last season. I therefore find it odd and mystifying the same coaching staff would want to sign him up again especially as he appears exactly the opposite kind of player they favour in terms of application. Why anyone else, including you, would not ponder this and who decided to re-sign him I have no idea.



I don't think I have stopped smiling since we won the GF but I fail to see why the success precludes disagreeing with the re-signing of a player like Pryce.

Given many on this thread are not in favour the signing either what have you to say to them? Is there implied criticism of IL and/or Madge there? Go and have a pop at them for daring to disagree with Pryce being re-signed.

I think your problem is you didn't like me pointing out the fact Pryce will take up a salary cap slot when you posted about him being cheap as a reason to justify the signing but instead of saying "Oh I didn't think about that" you completely ignored the point and have since been on my case justifying the re-signing of Pryce mainly by adopting the tired old "the coach knows best there can be no debate" argument.

Bottom line is I don't think Pryce deserves a salary cap place and the fact someone at the club does, isn't going to change my opinion. The only thing that will is if he pulls his socks up big time and proves me and others who don't rate him wrong and I really do not think that is being unreasonable.

Dave

If I see an opinion that I think is crap, I'll say so. That's also the nature of this message board.

Look ... the re-signing of Pryce, if it's a gripe at all, is a very minor one in the great run of things.

I just thought it funny and not atypical when you decided that - because this is a decision you don't like - it must have been a decision made by Lenagan rather than Maguire. Lenagan, of course, being the guy you barely had a good word for after it became clear that he wasn't keen on your beloved Mickey Higham.

I don't know what Pryce is earning from Wigan, and neither do you. So there's not much point arguing about that. On that basis, however, I will concede that it's possible Pryce is one of our top-earners, in which case it would be ridiculous to re-hire him on the same terms. But to be honest, I somehow doubt that he is. Whatever stock he first had when he came back to RL, it's surely fallen significantly by now.

Don't you watch the games he has played in ? How can you say inexplicable ? You'll be saying he's a World beater next. Or maybe your related to Pryce ?

The question is, how was it so easy to get rid of Feka, but Pryce is a 'shoe-in' for the squad ?

There's a bit of a difference between saying a Wigan player should have more support from the crowd and calling him a 'world-beater'. There's also a difference between criticising a player for failing to fulfill his potential, and heaping all kinds of abuse on him (I love the bit about how you have to be someone's relative not to want to see that happen to them - truly inspiring generosity of spirit).

As for your question, I'd imagine that Feka's price tag and his inability to do what the coaches required of him was the main reason for his departure; that along with the acquisiton of a far better player in Jeff Lima. I'm not quite sure what Pryce has got to do with any of that that, given that Feka is a front row forward and Karl Pryce a back.

this one is going to rumble on just like last season. IMO the coaching staff must see something in KP. They are trying to get him fit enough to play to his potential. Only time will tell if he will ever be good enough.Maybe with a good hard pre season under his belt he may well do a job for us. I am one of the many that think he will fail to make the impact but would be happy to be proved wrong. It would be great to see the big guy causing havoc and scoring for fun.
on a slight change of subject liam farrel is ripping it up in pre season.