None of the players mentioned do, IMO.

Its Pat's all-round game that makes him special; it isn't that he's outstanding in one area alone, he is the complete player and very, very consistent. Just look at his stats on the superleague website - e.g. 3rd in the most metres gained, 1st equal in clean breaks....

Not british based and more importantly not better than Sam Thaiday.

was just about to post that, Thaiday is just a monster, love watching him play for Brisbane

Not fit to lace Mylers boots

I felt sorry for Sam Tomkins actually. Too much expectation was placed on his shoulders given his relative inexperience at international level.

The next thing you know, he'll be finding reasons why he can't play in Test matches. But I don't suppose you know anyone who's taken that option, do you?

I don't think sam Tomkins has had a very good tour so far but he's only a young kid and has all the tools to become a top player on the international stage and im pretty sure he will.

It shows how good he is when the aussies say he was our main threat. The aussies kick chase was awesome which didn't give tomkins the space he gets in super league.

A little off the subject here but i thought joel tomkins looked like a player well out of his depth. I know it was his first full game but i have serious doubts about him at that level. Only time will tell but i think he is great club player but won't be good enough at the top level.

Are you not going to answer Cruncher's question.........

He wasn't aggressive enough for me but for a young lad he was solid enough and did as much as one of our supposed NRL superstars in Gareth Ellis.

Joel got through 26 tackles with zero misses and made as many metres as guys like Ellis and Westwood yet I would agree he can play an awful lot better.

I think we should be pointing fingers of blame at guys like Ellis who did zilch in the 2 games or Sam Burgess who is an error machine rather then at less experienced players(at test level) trying to make their mark.

Vatuvei
Tuqiri
Hayne
Folau
Tuiaki
Williams
Morris(brett)

Any of those would do it.

Im not pointing the blame at joel if my post come across that way.

He just didn't seem the same player that plays for wigan every week. I agree, he had no of his aggressive style he has in super league, he loked a little in awe of the aussies.

Yep i agree, all those are better wingers than richards but you missed ade gardner off that list.

You make a fair point. Joel was awesome in sl but looked ineffective against the Aussies as he did against the kiwis. hasn't made the step up yet at this level.