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Think there should be more emphasis on finishing top with the grand final some what more second place to the league. Its only a matter of time before an 8th placed team win grand final with having lost half there games or so. The way it is sees the likes of saints and leeds etc not giving there all when know going to finnish in top 8 and holding out for a grand final

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Quote: MadDogg "But at least 3/4 of all games would be meaningless if we simply had a system where the 1st placed team won the league.

As I've said previously, in the Premier League there is the title, CL and Europa League to aim for plus the motivation to avoid relegation. SL has none of these extra incentives bar the title itself.

The top 8 is correct in my opinion, its just the format of the playoffs I have a problem with.'"


In Premier League terms, the top 8 in SL, would be the equivalent of 11 or 12 teams qualifying for Europe. I really didn't see anything wrong in the top 6 system. It gave a big advantage to 1st and 2nd, and i think thats how it should be. It also meant the playoff were more elite. What we obtain too cheap, we esteem too lightly.

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[quote="Harrigan":1th0f7ap]Wigan are the most structured team I have ever seen in this country.[/quote:1th0f7ap] [quote="NickyKiss":1th0f7ap]As a fan Wane makes you want to run through a brick wall so you can only imagine how he makes the players feel![/quote:1th0f7ap] [url=http://twitter.com/#!/theegw:1th0f7ap]@TheEGW[/url:1th0f7ap] [url=https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCsnX1esHN2wkEC1FxcO2TCg:1th0f7ap]YouTube Channel[/url:1th0f7ap]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_44920.png



Quote: KoA "Agreed. In an ideal world though, the season (before play-offs) would be longer and the rightful winners would be those sat at the top, and I'm not just saying that because we're top at the moment.

In my eyes the team who's been best for the longest period should be the champions. I'm not totally against the play-offs, but would prefer the league without them.

Anyway, onwards and upwards to Old Trafford! Agreed. Play-offs have their attractions, but it's a shame that they completely over-shadow the league. I've never been a huge fan of the current structure; no team who finishes 8th in the league could legitimately be "champions".

There should be a separate knock-out cup competition played after the league with the top teams battling it out to be "best of the best", but tying such a competition in with being so-called Super League winners doesn't make sense, imo.

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Quote: Conroy "Fully agree with the OP and have had this discussion several times.

If we finish top and fail to win the GF then yes it will have been a successful season but we won't be the champions. Those are the rules unfortunately. Saints have finished top the last 4 years but have won the GF once.'"

Which surely points out a flaw in the current system?

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Quote: TheElectricGlidingWarrior "Which surely points out a flaw in the current system?'"



Which is actually wrong. We finished top and won it last year. Saints, like you guys will this year, have only blown it 2 out the last 3 years from top.

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Quote: Harrigan "Which is actually wrong. We finished top and won it last year. Saints, like you guys will this year, have only blown it 2 out the last 3 years from top.'"


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Quote: Dougy "Totally agree that unless we win at Old Trafford we can't call ourselves Champions because they are the rules but........

This shouldn't be the case. The team that can finish top after playing week after week from February through to September in all kinds of conditions should 100% definately be the Champions. I understand what people are saying regarding mid table clubs having no incentive but why should be have a structure that is rewarding mid table clubs? Why do we actually have a league?
Why don't we split all 14 teams into 4 different groups then the group winners play in a semi final and final?? Might as well, and it saves us playing all 27 league games for nothing. Under the current top 8 format the league winners aren't even guarenteed a semi final slot! MASSIVE JOKE!'"


I couldn't agree with you more eusa_clap.gif

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Quote: Dougy "I couldn't agree with you more
Obviously you do as you now look like not even making the semi's icon_smile.gif

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[color=#0000FF:1a6njd9t]NOW THE WIRE![/color:1a6njd9t] [quote="JWP":1a6njd9t]Sam looks to me to be the type who 'disconnects' halfway through a game of FIFA when getting a good hiding, and that's just not on, Sam.[/quote:1a6njd9t]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_48172.jpg



Quote: EastStandFaithful "I agree, but I am loving the fact that Wire have lost.

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as are the wire fans that you've lost, you should learn never to shoot your load too early!

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Quote: jonh "I feel this year will be a year too early.

Next year I really think we will take some stopping.'"



For me finishing top this season was a massive bonus as before the season no one fancied us. Were missing some depth in the squad that is more than sorted for next season. Tonight and the home game against Wire proves this point. If we get to the GF or miss out this season i wont be that disapointed but next season i will be gutted. Were better than we were last year but next season could be out best in a long while

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I got 14/1 for us to win the league, and 8/1 for us to win the GF at the start of the season. I can't for the life of me understand why were longer odds to win the league when the GF is the so called hardest to win.

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Quote: Dougy "I got 14/1 for us to win the league, and 8/1 for us to win the GF at the start of the season. I can't for the life of me understand why were longer odds to win the league when the GF is the so called hardest to win.'"



Did u put that bet on with real optimism of winning the hub cap.

A work colleague of mine put a £10 on Everton to win the premiership. Something tells me the bookie will be keeping his money.

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platoffs are the trie test of champions.

winning pressure games when it counts.

You have to be consistent as well, only 1 team has ever won it from outside the top 2.

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[quote="WireWonder":z7op9sh9] Well you know that trophy that Wigan and St Helens have supposidly won more than anyone? It's currently gleaming in the Warrington boardroom. And has been for 2 years and will be for a long time yet [/quote:z7op9sh9][b:z7op9sh9]2011 Challenge Cup Winners - [u:z7op9sh9]WIGAN[/u:z7op9sh9][/b:z7op9sh9] [quote="Lippy":z7op9sh9]As for Warrior Lou, she was last seen running after Phelps.[/quote:z7op9sh9] [quote="Saint94":z7op9sh9]FIOS.......... Every team is in your feckin shadow....we all know.[/quote:z7op9sh9]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_4676.jpg



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Quote: seanm89 "I agree, but I am loving the fact that Wire have lost.

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as are the wire fans that you've lost, you should learn never to shoot your load too early!'"


you do realise that was posted in July? it was during the season when everyone had a chance to point and laugh at the teams that lost (albeit that was a loss at Catalans!) c020.gif

no doubt some wigan fans were enjoying the fact you lost on Friday but to reply to that from a couple months ago.... icon_confused.gif:

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[color=#0000FF:1a6njd9t]NOW THE WIRE![/color:1a6njd9t] [quote="JWP":1a6njd9t]Sam looks to me to be the type who 'disconnects' halfway through a game of FIFA when getting a good hiding, and that's just not on, Sam.[/quote:1a6njd9t]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_48172.jpg



Quote: Warrior-Lou "you do realise that was posted in July? it was during the season when everyone had a chance to point and laugh at the teams that lost (albeit that was a loss at Catalans!)

i only saw that it was an old old post after posting, and lets not get into who lost to who as if i remember we ost to catalans away, yet you lost to the quins at the dw, we all know that is worse!

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