Exactly but every Wigan fullback for the next 20 years will be playing under the shadow of Kris Radlinski and people will always expect our fullback to be as good in defence as the best defensive fullback i've ever seen.

Thankfully the great man himself is on hand to help Phelps and whoever may come after him.

We have been blessed with some of the greatest players the world has ever seen! We will always have this problem.

People forget that some of those players also made mistakes though.

Phelps is an attacking FB and IMO he is on of the best with the way he comes into the line, he had 3 or 4 assists for us in 2 games!

He has a kicking and passing game which is none existant with most FB's.

No they don't. (Well I certainly don't). But I do expect him to be comfortable under the high ball, composed when in a one on one situations and have good positioning for kicks close to our line, which last year he did not have and in the pre-season games his defending of the last tackle kicks were poor. But so far (when it has counted) he has done the job, which is great. However he hasn't had much to do either and I guess we will see how he copes as the season goes on and our opposition provides a much sterner test for his defence.

Which is fantastic, but he also has to defend as well.

Which he does

He has all that of course but I don't get where this talk of him being terrible in defence comes from tbh.

Are people constantly running through him like they did with Ashton and Mathers? No

Does he make try saving tackles? Yes

Does he put his body on the line to collect 50/50 kicks unlike Mathers used to do? Yes

Like I say I don't get it. I guess it's just because he's an unheard of Australian. If he'd have come over as an out and out fullback with a big reputation everyone would be fine with him because his preformences are special.

They are two of the best fullbacks in the league and defensively they are streets ahead of Cameron Phelps. I can't believe you can't see that or even acknowledge it.

We'll agree to disagree.

I must have missed him sat down behind the posts with his butty box and flask when KR were attacking last night

I'm a little worried that by losing Phelps and therefore having to re jig the back line that we may lose some of that impetus from last night.

Assuming Amos moves to fullback how will he cope with the highballs that wire will throw at him, that concerns me greatly.

Fingers crossed it's only a knock for Phelps. He'll be a big loss if he's out for any length of time.

So far he has, but he hasn't had too much to do either so I'm not completely convinced yet due to his efforts in the pre season games.

Like I say i've seen both make big errors in defence. I've seen Webb miss one on one tackles and i've seen him panic and high tackle people as the last man. I've also seen him totally miss read bombs and get nowhere near them.

As for Greenshields I wouldn't call him a good defensive fullback at all. He's made the same errors and I watched him at Wembley a couple of years ago against Saints have a shocking game in defence. He missed stacks of tackles but that side of his game has improved.

All 3 of Phelps, Webb and Greenshields are fantastic attacking fullbacks and decent enough in defence.

heard it is a break and hes out for 8 to 10 weeks.