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| Quote: NickyKiss "He's always been in great shape though. If the new set up can get some bulk on him whilst keeping him as fit as he's ever been they'll have done him a huge favour.'"
MM says he wants the players to 'bulk up' maybe fielden will be one bitcon is targeting to gain some size?
Although he was around the same size at bradford, so i dont know if this is the issue, or if gaining weight will make him a better player
Will be interesting though to see what the coaching setup thinks
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3076_1671446335.jpg SAINTS THE ORIGINAL AND PERENNIAL CHEATS
For sale full Saints kit (circa 1989). Shirts in pristine condition, but shorts badly soiled.
For 27 - 0 you get a trophy
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| Quote: MR FRISK "he will need to perform like before 2006 or be shown the door
Whilst I agree with you on principle, I don't see many young
British front rowers coming through (Graham apart) who could take his place.
To me if he is willing to drop his salary as Bailey has done I would give him another one or two year deal.
If you look at the other clubs message boards almost every team is on the lookout for prop forwards.
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| Quote: Rogues Gallery "Whilst I agree with you on principle, I don't see many young
British front rowers coming through (Graham apart) who could take his place.
To me if he is willing to drop his salary as Bailey has done I would give him another one or two year deal.
If you look at the other clubs message boards almost every team is on the lookout for prop forwards.'"
Agreed, people need to realise the last sentence particularly. They also need to realise that with the current interchange system, that the pack has to be looked at as a unit of 4 players and that it's not a simple case of just throwing in any 'name' when looking at making changes to it.
For example, Luke Bailey and Fui Fui Moi Moi - both good player, but very different when it comes to the role they perform and their particular talents. Having a 'vacancy' you need to have an idea of the job you want fulfilled, as it would influence which of those two you went for (just as an example).
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| Quote: Rogues Gallery "Whilst I agree with you on principle, I don't see many young
British front rowers coming through (Graham apart) who could take his place.
To me if he is willing to drop his salary as Bailey has done I would give him another one or two year deal.
If you look at the other clubs message boards almost every team is on the lookout for prop forwards.'"
Graham wouldn't "take his place", he'd be far far better.
There are several young front rowers who could take his place - he's no more than a Luke Burgess now.
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| Quote: Rogues Gallery "If you look at the other clubs message boards almost every team is on the lookout for prop forwards.'"
And if they had £200k to throw at a salary, they would certainly find one . . .
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39110_1363272058.jpg Dropkick Murphy..we actually saw and heard a mass of bouncing and scarf and flag waving to Dale Cavese that drowned out anything we could muster.. It stopped us singing our own celebratory songs, it died out seconds later when we accepted we couldn't be heard over the Wigan lot
Celebrations muted from us, job done from them. Most fans who slag them off are jealous their own club's support is nowhere near that good
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sally cinnamon..Why not discuss Wigan? It's a rugby league message board. Wigan are the most famous brand in rugby league
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Tre Cool..Saints fans are hopeless unless it's a cup final or grand final. Wigan fans are so much more loyal and passionate
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the flying biscuit..Wires havent been massively succesful over the years, but I've spoke to Brian Bevan And he spoke to me and i wouldnt swap that for Wigans History, ever
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Ande..on the TV i could only hear the Wigan fans with about 10 to go
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| Quote: Steve Ella's Beard "Agreed, people need to realise the last sentence particularly. They also need to realise that with the current interchange system, that the pack has to be looked at as a unit of 4 players and that it's not a simple case of just throwing in any 'name' when looking at making changes to it.
For example, Luke Bailey and Fui Fui Moi Moi - both good player, but very different when it comes to the role they perform and their particular talents. Having a 'vacancy' you need to have an idea of the job you want fulfilled, as it would influence which of those two you went for (just as an example).'"
I would love to see one of these at Wigan.
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Quote: FearTheVee "Graham wouldn't "take his place", he'd be far far better.
There are several young front rowers who could take his place - he's no more than a Luke Burgess now.'"
Except he's not even vaguely a Luke Burgess now
www.superleague.co.uk/statistics ... eason=2009
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Quote: FearTheVee "Graham wouldn't "take his place", he'd be far far better.
There are several young front rowers who could take his place - he's no more than a Luke Burgess now.'"
Except he's not even vaguely a Luke Burgess now
www.superleague.co.uk/statistics ... eason=2009
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| Quote: Odemwingie "I would love to see one of these at Wigan.'"
And that's fine, but they're not the same type of player. So if you vacancy fits one, it doesn't quite fit the other.
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39110_1363272058.jpg Dropkick Murphy..we actually saw and heard a mass of bouncing and scarf and flag waving to Dale Cavese that drowned out anything we could muster.. It stopped us singing our own celebratory songs, it died out seconds later when we accepted we couldn't be heard over the Wigan lot
Celebrations muted from us, job done from them. Most fans who slag them off are jealous their own club's support is nowhere near that good
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sally cinnamon..Why not discuss Wigan? It's a rugby league message board. Wigan are the most famous brand in rugby league
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Tre Cool..Saints fans are hopeless unless it's a cup final or grand final. Wigan fans are so much more loyal and passionate
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the flying biscuit..Wires havent been massively succesful over the years, but I've spoke to Brian Bevan And he spoke to me and i wouldnt swap that for Wigans History, ever
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Ande..on the TV i could only hear the Wigan fans with about 10 to go
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Saint94..Every team is in your feckin shadow, we all know
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| Quote: Steve Ella's Beard "And that's fine, but they're not the same type of player. So if you vacancy fits one, it doesn't quite fit the other.'"
Quite true, I am not sure having Moi Moi and Feka would work unless one upped their game time.
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3076_1671446335.jpg SAINTS THE ORIGINAL AND PERENNIAL CHEATS
For sale full Saints kit (circa 1989). Shirts in pristine condition, but shorts badly soiled.
For 27 - 0 you get a trophy
For 75 - 0 you get sod all.
Wigan had eight in a row
Saints have five in a row:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_3076.jpg |
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| Quote: FearTheVee "Graham wouldn't "take his place", he'd be far far better.
There are several young front rowers who could take his place - he's no more than a Luke Burgess now.'"
Oh he is
rlhttp://www.superleague.co.uk/statistics_player.php?season
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| Quote: Steve Ella's Beard "Except he's not even vaguely a Luke Burgess now
Okay, maybe not the best example - try Keith Mason, Paul Clough, Nick Scruton etc. Point stands that he's a grossly overpaid workhorse who can be replaced fairly easily - especially given his salary.
You could get all three of the above for what you're paying him.
He's probably on £150k more than even someone like Elima who works just as hard.
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| Quote: Odemwingie "Quite true, I am not sure having Moi Moi and Feka would work unless one upped their game time.'"
Moi Moi plays for 60 mins a game at Parra. He is a far fitter player then the one we were first linked with 18months back and could easily handle a role in the side 'alongside' Feka(who will hopefully be fitter himself).
If Fielden has a solid-ish season and would be prepared to take a huge wage drop on a years deal i'd be tempted to keep him ahead of Coley and try to bring in Moi Moi.
To have 2 workhorses in Fielden and Prescott and 2 explosive wrecking balls in Feka and Moi Moi would be awesome imo.
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| Quote: FearTheVee "Okay, maybe not the best example - try Keith Mason or Paul Clough etc. Point stands that he's a grossly overpaid workhorse who can be replaced fairly easily - especially given his salary.
You could get both of the above and probably another prop for what you're paying him.'"
He's still a quality workhorse prop if your paying him the right money.
We're obviously not but if we could get him to sign a much reduced deal he'd possibly be worth having around the place.
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| Quote: NickyKiss "He's still a quality workhorse prop if your paying him the right money.
We're obviously not but if we could get him to sign a much reduced deal he'd possibly be worth having around the place.'"
Absolutely agree.
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| Quote: Odemwingie "Quite true, I am not sure having Moi Moi and Feka would work unless one upped their game time.'"
And i think you're bang on the money with that statement. Coley and Fielden are off contract at the end of the season, and they are the props who do the most amount of defensive work by a significant margin. If we want to get rid of both, and sign Moi Moi then the other prop will need to be significantly defensive and Prescott would have to step up his defensive workload by a lot to compensate to.
I really couldn't see anybody working Feka and Moi Moi in the same side unless they had 2 other hugely defensive props, which nobody seems to have.
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