Agree with the millward thing, but Orr was poor before that.

With regards, to Moran yes he was pants, but what do you expect asking someone who scores 30 tries a season, to start leading a team around the field. Danny Orr should have been doing that as he did at Cas, and Moran running the channels, as he did at london.

So its a combo of terrible players and a worse coach, but they were equally as bad under betts

I think you should read the piece on Bradford's bid for Orford AJ. Apparently they have tabled a "big offer". That being the case I wouldn't want him. Our immediate future in the halves is in our young players and paying big money for a 32 year old is not the way to go.

Finance wise, I understand why Orford is probably a bad idea, but it doesnt mean I wouldnt like to see him in place @ 7 with Tommy @ 9.

Was not sure at first but have warmed to the idea.... Wigan lad, lives in the area and was a capable player.... More importantly he fits the new ethos...

Which is?

Local lad??

He played for Hindley.

Not an aussie looking for a pension.... is Hindley technically Wigan?..... hehehehe...

Too bloody right it is!!!!!

My great grandfather was from there... But we don't talk of it...

So with his age, injury record, the fact that he isnt that good, is ok as he is topping his pension up but he is from wigan?

despite my comments of the signing thread i did not see this thread and the full implication of the signing as basically a coach who could potentially play when required, if that is the case good idea.

If it's a coaching and back up player role I think it's a good idea.

However, as far as the salary cap goes, I would be surprised if the RFL lets us pay him x amount for coaching and y amount for playing. Surely if he's playing then all his wages would count on the cap.