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Quote: Woody_woody " Can you not like someone but criticise some of the things they do? '"


Not if its IL.

Any criticism of IL will result in Cruncher spitting his dummy into next week!

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Quote: Red Hot Jalapeno "Can you show me where i called IL a liar please. Feel free to quote me otherwise button it.'"


Easy…..

Quote: Red Hot Jalapeno "I can say that i like strawberrys and you would believe it but it doesnt mean a great deal.'"


You’re saying IL says one thing to and does another hence him being liar.

So what is it you wanted IL to do? Sack Noble mid season? Are you saying you would have been happy for this to happen? Or was it a case of saying the only part of the season that matters is the final part and Noble should have been given time as we were going to win the GF?

Well IL left it till the last moment like you asked for and now your slating him for it.

Get a grip man Noble has gone so stop trying to twist and undermine everything IL says or does.

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Quote: thepriestman85 "Easy…..



You’re saying IL says one thing to and does another hence him being liar.

So what is it you wanted IL to do? Sack Noble mid season? Are you saying you would have been happy for this to happen? Or was it a case of saying the only part of the season that matters is the final part and Noble should have been given time as we were going to win the GF?

Well IL left it till the last moment like you asked for and now your slating him for it.

Get a grip man Noble has gone so stop trying to twist and undermine everything IL says or does.'"


Please show me where i call IL a liar.

Like i say,show me the proof or button it.

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Quote: Red Hot Jalapeno "Thanks for proving the point many of us put forward a few weeks ago.

If Noble was not staying he should of been told and it should of been announced weeks/months ago. I remember this argument and as always Cruncher and his band of happy clappers said IL would of looked like a prat etc. etc.'"


Now the dust has settled and Noble's future made public I am more convinced then ever this has been handled the wrong way. Ever since the Kearney rumour it has been one huge distraction who was going to be coach for Wigan in 2010.

The way it should have been done was either

Sack Noble and appoint Wane caretaker about half way through the season

Or

Make it public Noble was not going to get a new deal but he had the full support of the board and the club was right behind him for the remainder of his contract.

The idea you can keep silent and let a coaches contract run it's course when you are not going to give him a new deal has IMO been blown out of the water by this saga.

It doesn't look professional and it is just simply unfair. And before anyone says Noble was off looking for jobs anyway that is irrelevant IMO. He was in the last year of his deal so was quite entitled to do so given the lack of response from Wigan.

Quote: Red Hot Jalapeno "The new coach should have been sorted out ages ago so he had the chance to have a say in any new players or any current players off contract. If the new coach would not commit to Wigan until the last minute then that does not mean IL should automatically just go out and sign any old players and hope the new coach is happy with them eg. Sean Long'"


I agree the issue should have been sorted a while back but I don't know how realistic it is to expect the new coach who will still be working for his current club to be concerning himself with recruitment for his new employer.

When Nobby arrived people often made the excuse when things were not going right that "it was not his team". Well of course it wasn't and its inevitable a new coach inherits a team. He is being employed to make that team better. That is why Noble got the job in the first place over Millward.

So the new coach this time around will be in the same position as any other new coach at a club. He will be presented with a squad of players already on contract and told to go away and coach them.

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Quote: DaveO "snip'"


I too don't think it was handled in the best possible way. But I'm in no way convinced that Noble only found out last week. I, like a few on here, was told this a couple of months ago.

One of the reasons that it perhaps wasn't public knowledge was due to the fact that we weren't 100% sure that the guy coming could get a visa. If it was announced that Noble was leaving and no one was ready to take the step up, it would have made us look unprofessional. If we then said we're after Maguire but we're waiting for a visa, visa denied and Wane gets the job. Everyone knows that Wane isn't IL's first choice and he won't have everyone's backing.

It's a tricky situation to manage and one that I'm ultimately not too bothered about as long as the outcome is we get a coach who's ready to take us to some finals.

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Quote: Red Hot Jalapeno "Please show me where i call IL a liar.

Like i say,show me the proof or button it.'"


I just did you clown.

You say IL says one thing to everyone and does another behind the scenes!!

Are you being this slow on purpose?

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Quote: Pemps "I too don't think it was handled in the best possible way. But I'm in no way convinced that Noble only found out last week. I, like a few on here, was told this a couple of months ago.

One of the reasons that it perhaps wasn't public knowledge was due to the fact that we weren't 100% sure that the guy coming could get a visa. If it was announced that Noble was leaving and no one was ready to take the step up, it would have made us look unprofessional. If we then said we're after Maguire but we're waiting for a visa, visa denied and Wane gets the job. Everyone knows that Wane isn't IL's first choice and he won't have everyone's backing.

It's a tricky situation to manage and one that I'm ultimately not too bothered about as long as the outcome is we get a coach who's ready to take us to some finals.'"


If that is the case and I have no reason to disbelieve you, then they are both liars. BN said he was only told last week and IL said he only made his final decision 3 or 4 weeks ago.

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Quote: Woody_woody "If that is the case and I have no reason to disbelieve you, then they are both liars. BN said he was only told last week and IL said he only made his final decision 3 or 4 weeks ago.'"


The whole air of mystery surrounding this is strange. Like I said, I was told this a while ago and a few on here said the same. You'd think that Nobby and IL would at least get their stories straight. icon_lol.gif

It could also be that the final decision was only made a couple of weeks back and I was just told one of the many rumours taht turn out to be unfounded. Remember the one a couple of months ago that said Nobby had been sacked? Loads of people were on to that one.

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Quote: Pemps "The whole air of mystery surrounding this is strange. Like I said, I was told this a while ago and a few on here said the same. You'd think that Nobby and IL would at least get their stories straight.
Maybe they both had a slip of the tongue and were meant to say month/months icon_biggrin.gif

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Quote: Pemps "You'd think that Nobby and IL would at least get their stories straight. icon_lol.gif icon_lol.gif icon_lol.gif

Yeah, you're right ...

"Excuse me, Mike, can you just take time off preparing your team for the NRL Grand Final, to pop over to the UK and cast your eye over this possible new recruit for next season? It should only take a couple of weeks. I know you haven't got confirmation of your visa yet, but that's not a major problem is it? I asked RHJ, and he couldn't even tell me what a visa is, so it surely can't matter very much."

By the way, in case you hadn't noticed, he DIDN'T sign Sean Long. icon_lol.gif

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Quote: thepriestman85 "I just did you clown.

You say IL says one thing to everyone and does another behind the scenes!!

Are you being this slow on purpose?'"


Listen idiot. I call you idiot because you obviously are an idiot.

I have never stated IL is a liar nor have i stated he says one thing to everyone and does another behind the scenes.

Now as i said,show me the proof or button it.

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Quote: Red Hot Jalapeno "Listen idiot. I call you idiot because you obviously are an idiot.

I have never stated IL is a liar nor have i stated he says one thing to everyone and does another behind the scenes.

Now as i said,show me the proof or button it.'"


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So again you didn't say IL says one thing and then does another?

If that wasn’t what your stupid metaphor was all about then please do tell us what you meant.

Or is it you just look like a fool twice in two days?

Again are you intentionally this slow?

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Quote: Cruncher "icon_lol.gif
Why would he have to pop over to the UK? Please tell me i am begging you!

Why is it so hard for you to comprehend that IL could of consulted him on any possible signings over the phone?

And no he didnt sign Sean Long but he held talks with him and Sean Long turned him down! Is that also too hard for you to understand?

Ill tell you why he didnt consult the new coach shall i?

Because he didnt even know who the new coach was! IL went out to sign Sean Long of his own accord and Long turned him down and that is the end of the matter.

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