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Quote: Dougy "Has someone got a pic of what Central Park would have looked like re-developed? and could you put it on here?'"


There is an artist impression in the book The Central Park Years, unfortunley dont know how to put it on here

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Quote: Dougy "Has someone got a pic of what Central Park would have looked like re-developed? and could you put it on here?'"


To be honest, we dodged a bullet on that one.

Can you imagine if we'd developed CP as a groundshare, and then in 2008 had David Whelan telling us that we had to play a vital tie elsewhere so that Latics could accommodate a routine fixture?

That would have been an impossibly bitter pill to swallow.

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Quote: Cruncher "To be honest, we dodged a bullet on that one.

Can you imagine if we'd developed CP as a groundshare, and then in 2008 had David Whelan telling us that we had to play a vital tie elsewhere so that Latics could accommodate a routine fixture?

That would have been an impossibly bitter pill to swallow.'"


Some Latics fans won't sit in a stand named after Billy B - they'd be alright going to CP.

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Quote: Conroy "Some Latics fans won't sit in a stand named after Billy B - they'd be alright going to CP.'"


And I know of a few of them icon_rolleyes.gif

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Quote: wiganrlforever "And I know of a few of them
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Quote: wiganrlforever "And I know of a few of them
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Quote: Conroy "Some Latics fans won't sit in a stand named after Billy B - they'd be alright going to CP.'"



Looks like a few decided not to bother at all last night, never mind the Billy B Stand!

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Quote: MattyB "Looks like a few decided not to bother at all last night, never mind the Billy B Stand!'"


Yeah, shocking attendance.

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It's the first time i have looked at comments on the football board... They make Warrington fans look balanced...

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Quote: Conroy "www.cockneylatic.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f

I find it extremely sad TBH... I have a bit of banter with Latics fans... but some people are so angry its sad... I love rugby and have done for 20 odd years... but I have also frequented to the jjb and springfield park to watch the latics on occasions and although I cant get as passionate as I do for the rugby... I still enjoyed myself...

The whole problem between latics/warriors is partly down to "tribalism". We as human beings... have an natural desire to be part of a group or tribe... Whether it be rugby, football, churches, chess club tiddlewinks.... etc... This is our natural urge and when tribes are formed they create belief streams.. and these are reassured by the "group"... therefore hatred breeds by a pure lack of understanding between groups and breeds the hatred even further... we see it in all walks of life whether is chav groups on the street corner or within the office/workplace.... I think we human beings believe we are above other animal species... but when you examine us closely we are nothing but animals ourselves with our own broad set of characteristics... there is always going to be exceptions to the rule....

The sad things is that although many within both clubs won't admit it... neither the football or the rugby is going to consistently fill the stadium while the disrespect/animosity between the fans of the two clubs remains...

Does part of the problem also lie with the fact that many fans of the latics are also supporters of other local rugby teams such as St helens/wire/widnes etc??..

To be accepted into a club you have to feel part of the club... Should we be "Men" enough to hold out the olive branch?

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Quote: WarriorSteve "

Does part of the problem also lie with the fact that many fans of the latics are also supporters of other local rugby teams such as St helens/wire/widnes etc??..

'"


I'd say it works the other in the majority. Go back to the 80's & 90's, most footballing supporting Wiganers had families who'd supported Man U, Liverpool and Everton and had done for generations, all this was going on whilst Latics struggled to get 2,500 at SP. I know loads that 'jumped on the Latics bandwagon' when they arrived in the Prem, majority of which have gone back to Man U, Liverpool now...etc.

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Quote: MattyB "I'd say it works the other in the majority. Go back to the 80's & 90's, most footballing supporting Wiganers had families who'd supported Man U, Liverpool and Everton and had done for generations, all this was going on whilst Latics struggled to get 2,500 at SP. I know loads that 'jumped on the Latics bandwagon' when they arrived in the Prem, majority of which have gone back to Man U, Liverpool now...etc.'"


I know a few who were Spurs (Why, I still don't now) ManU and Evertons fans, who are now Latics through and through...Fair play to em... but do liverpool and united fans hate wigan... not really(maybe a few), but wire/saints fans dislike us... which I guess adds to a few to the WiganW hatred bandwagon!!!

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there is plenty of land to build a ground in hindley at the old high school's playing fields

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Quote: WarriorSteve "I find it extremely sad TBH... I have a bit of banter with Latics fans... but some people are so angry its sad... I love rugby and have done for 20 odd years... but I have also frequented to the jjb and springfield park to watch the latics on occasions and although I cant get as passionate as I do for the rugby... I still enjoyed myself...

The whole problem between latics/warriors is partly down to "tribalism". We as human beings... have an natural desire to be part of a group or tribe... Whether it be rugby, football, churches, chess club tiddlewinks.... etc... This is our natural urge and when tribes are formed they create belief streams.. and these are reassured by the "group"... therefore hatred breeds by a pure lack of understanding between groups and breeds the hatred even further... we see it in all walks of life whether is chav groups on the street corner or within the office/workplace.... I think we human beings believe we are above other animal species... but when you examine us closely we are nothing but animals ourselves with our own broad set of characteristics... there is always going to be exceptions to the rule....

The sad things is that although many within both clubs won't admit it... neither the football or the rugby is going to consistently fill the stadium while the disrespect/animosity between the fans of the two clubs remains...

Does part of the problem also lie with the fact that many fans of the latics are also supporters of other local rugby teams such as St helens/wire/widnes etc??..

To be accepted into a club you have to feel part of the club... Should we be "Men" enough to hold out the olive branch?'"


There's an added problem now. Whelan.

Despite the good things he did for the RL in the past, what happened last year was seen as a betrayal of the club and proof positive that all the 'support' he's given us in the past was little more than an attempt to placate us while in the background he worked on his real project - making Latics into the town's main sports club.

I don't think there'll ever be a coming together of these clans while Whelan is involved.

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Quote: Conroy "www.cockneylatic.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f

Absolutely hilarious reading! 3.2236328125:10
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