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2595.jpg I'm not Jesus Christ, I've come to accept that now.
[quote][b]XBrettKennyX wrote:[/b] Once more the anti SC brigade, purposely or otherwise fail to see the point.
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| For a supposed big and famous club, Wire fans don't half have a small club mentality. Jeez, the biting on this thread lol.
Robinson is right, this is a harder sell to the general public than a final with Saints, Wigan or Leeds in it. Face facts, not matter how competitive you are [inow[/i, neither Huddersfield nor Warrington have won trophies for a long time. Trophy winners get publicity, clubs that have rarely competed in a final for 20+ years don't.
The fact that it should be a close fought game matters little outside the RL fraternity, because people outside that fraternity won't know that.
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10123_1554736671.jpg "I've not come 'alfway round t'world fot watch us lose. And I've come halfway round t'world, an' av watched um lose":d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_10123.jpg |
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| Quote: Eastbourne Warrior "I know what the origional poster means. He is not refering to existing RL fans but how are the RFL going to sell the game to those outside of it.
I honestly means no disrespect to any team but living down south i have first hand experience of this. When asked where i am from, i respond Wigan, they then say you must be a rugby league fan then. They continue to tell me everything they know about RL which is usually Martin offiah, elery hanley, shaun edwards and a rivalry with st helens. Very few have heard of any other team.
I can't answer the origional post just trying to help others understand it.'"
Entirely correct.
I'm sure they are capable of understanding it, but as lot simply don't want to. A lot don't like hearing the truth, especiaqlly as it doesn't suit them.
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| Quote: ROBINSON "Entirely correct.
I'm sure they are capable of understanding it, but as lot simply don't want to. A lot don't like hearing the truth, especiaqlly as it doesn't suit them.'"
Except that I'm not sure it is the truth. It's a fair opinion, but that doesn't mean it's 100% accurate.
My travels around the country regularly depress me about the perception held of RL. Most fans who watch it in non-RL strongholds tend to be ex-pats from the game's heartland. None of my London pals can name any current RL players, the way they could name Edwards, Offiah, Jonathon Davies, etc.
The game was once seen in these areas as a kind of quaint anachronism. The cup final was a day for a load of flat-cap wearing northerners to invade the capital and sing about Ilkley Moor or lassies from Lancashire. All that's gone now (and thank God for it), but we've replaced it with what ... a slick but very small game that most non-northerners aren't prepared to pay Sky subscriptions to watch, and so don't follow it any more (if they ever followed it). One pal of mine from the South Coast recently asked me if RL had been swallowed by RU, because he hears so little about it these days.
Wigan and Saints are still well known as big RL clubs, but more because of their past exploits. No-one I know down south has ever heard of Sean Long or Kieran Cunningham. When you mention Wigan, if often invokes hostility because of a perception that the RL is preventing the football from taking it's rightful place at centre stage.
I honestly don't think the difference between a Wigan v Saints cup final or a Hudds v Wire cup final will make so much difference that it's worth arguing about. But if it did, don't you think that would be a pretty depressing state of affairs? That the RFL would want a Wigan v Saints final every year, because that's the only way they'd get Joe Public to watch?
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41627_1288549685.jpg "I read somewhere that Leeds-Bradford is an airport, Wigan-St Helens is a rivalry. I can't wait to play my first game against them.":d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_41627.jpg |
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| Quote: Leyther_Matt "The game will sell itself - set up for an absolute classic IMHO.'"
IM agreeing with a leigh fan who would av thought it, i do think it will be an entertering game for everyone in the ground and watching wordwide.
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20056_1279535197.jpg Warrington Wolves and Woolston Rovers - The PERFECT combination
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| Quote: ROBINSON "OK, so the final is the new Hollywood Blockbuster, and instead of having Brad Pitt and Angelina Jolie in the starring roles, we now have two actors from Coronation Street.
Certain Corrie actors are very good, but they don't exactly have Brangelina's profile, do they?
So, the question is this. Knowing that, even though they have the two most deserving teams, the final isn't exactly going to be glamorous, or an easy sell. How much harder are the RFL going to have to work to sell this final to the general public, ie NON-RL fans, or are they better off not bothering, and hoping they get two teams next year who are more famous and already in the public conscious?
Discuss.'"
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2595.jpg I'm not Jesus Christ, I've come to accept that now.
[quote][b]XBrettKennyX wrote:[/b] Once more the anti SC brigade, purposely or otherwise fail to see the point.
Thick as pig swill.[/quote]:2595.jpg |
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| Quote: Cruncher " That the RFL would want a Wigan v Saints final every year, because that's the only way they'd get Joe Public to watch?'"
I doubt that they do want a Saints Wigan final every year, but they need to sell a Huddersfield Wire game differently and more aggresively.
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39110_1363272058.jpg Dropkick Murphy..we actually saw and heard a mass of bouncing and scarf and flag waving to Dale Cavese that drowned out anything we could muster.. It stopped us singing our own celebratory songs, it died out seconds later when we accepted we couldn't be heard over the Wigan lot
Celebrations muted from us, job done from them. Most fans who slag them off are jealous their own club's support is nowhere near that good
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sally cinnamon..Why not discuss Wigan? It's a rugby league message board. Wigan are the most famous brand in rugby league
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Tre Cool..Saints fans are hopeless unless it's a cup final or grand final. Wigan fans are so much more loyal and passionate
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the flying biscuit..Wires havent been massively succesful over the years, but I've spoke to Brian Bevan And he spoke to me and i wouldnt swap that for Wigans History, ever
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Ande..on the TV i could only hear the Wigan fans with about 10 to go
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Saint94..Every team is in your feckin shadow, we all know
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| Quote: Billinge_Lump "For a supposed big and famous club, Wire fans don't half have a small club mentality. Jeez, the biting on this thread lol.
Robinson is right, this is a harder sell to the general public than a final with Saints, Wigan or Leeds in it. Face facts, not matter how competitive you are [inow[/i, neither Huddersfield nor Warrington have won trophies for a long time. Trophy winners get publicity, clubs that have rarely competed in a final for 20+ years don't.
The fact that it should be a close fought game matters little outside the RL fraternity, because people outside that fraternity won't know that.'"
That is quite true but it is their first final for years. I am pretty sure next time we get to a final we will be creaming ourselves.
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2595.jpg I'm not Jesus Christ, I've come to accept that now.
[quote][b]XBrettKennyX wrote:[/b] Once more the anti SC brigade, purposely or otherwise fail to see the point.
Thick as pig swill.[/quote]:2595.jpg |
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| Quote: odemwingie "That is quite true but it is their first final for years. I am pretty sure next time we get to a final we will be creaming ourselves.'"
I understand them creaming themselves, no problem with that. It's the 'how dare you not call us a big club' attitude that makes me laugh.
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39110_1363272058.jpg Dropkick Murphy..we actually saw and heard a mass of bouncing and scarf and flag waving to Dale Cavese that drowned out anything we could muster.. It stopped us singing our own celebratory songs, it died out seconds later when we accepted we couldn't be heard over the Wigan lot
Celebrations muted from us, job done from them. Most fans who slag them off are jealous their own club's support is nowhere near that good
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sally cinnamon..Why not discuss Wigan? It's a rugby league message board. Wigan are the most famous brand in rugby league
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Tre Cool..Saints fans are hopeless unless it's a cup final or grand final. Wigan fans are so much more loyal and passionate
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the flying biscuit..Wires havent been massively succesful over the years, but I've spoke to Brian Bevan And he spoke to me and i wouldnt swap that for Wigans History, ever
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Ande..on the TV i could only hear the Wigan fans with about 10 to go
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Saint94..Every team is in your feckin shadow, we all know
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| Quote: Billinge_Lump "I understand them creaming themselves, no problem with that. It's the 'how dare you not call us a big club' attitude that makes me laugh.'"
Well there was a thread on their board ages ago saying they were a bigger club than Wigan so I quoted the thread on our board and now they all hate me for it
They are a big club but untill people outside RL have a clue who they are, where they play and what they have achieved they are not a big club like Wigan, Saints or Leeds.
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| Quote: odemwingie "Well there was a thread on their board ages ago saying they were a bigger club than Wigan so I quoted the thread on our board and now they all hate me for it
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