You can't coach heart.

He must be such an annoying player to coach really.

You look at him is some of the reserve games and you wonder what he is doing at that level, last Saturday against Wakefield being an example.

But then when he is in the first team or in some other reserve games you wonder why the club went and bought him.

He has all the attributes to make it, but for whatever reason it just does not seem to happen for him.

The guy has all the tools to be massive for us in the centres, free up quota space by replacing Carmont etc, but he just doesnt ever look interested for me.

More like just a massive tool in the centre!

I recall similar being said about a number of players who upon leaving Wigan were found to be in capital coronary condition.

That was all down to Matthew Elliot..along with all the other good things Bradford did.

So ive been told

Yeah, I here Wayne Bennett takes tips from Jennings to this day.

I don't. Care to enlighten us all with who these players were then? Ability and application were questioned, but that very different from lacking heart.

Awaits a list of Shuddersfield players.

This has nothing to do with Wigan as all the Bradford fans will tell you. Trot on with your Wigan bashing.

I remember Saints fans saying the same about Karl's brother. Often doesn't look bothered, no spirit, no heart, get rid. Then he'd turn in a fantastic perormnace and all would be forgiven.

Partly I think it's the 'gate' (the way the Pryces walk), it looks very relaxed. But given an inch of space and they'll do something with it.

Heart or no heart - he played better for Bradford than he currently is for you.

when did the conversation get to Fielden?