I thought Burrow won it? Either way he has still performed consistantly in GB shirt which is more than that can be said for most.

Wasn't Burrow man of the series?

Pryce and Peacock were our other best players that year IMO.

Ohhhh Sean O'Loughlin
Your the love of my life...

This is probably the first time I've said this, but (to some extent) I agree with BrettKenny.

I feel dirty and will have to go for a shower - I'll be back in a bit to tell you why.

Perhaps they believe it, because they know it to be true. Anyone who has served in the armed forces, for example, will tell you that the best type of leader, the one you would follow into battle even if it was ultimately to your death, is the one prepared to do it themselves. In other words, the one prepared to 'lead by example'. History is littered with just such leaders. The fact that you feel it not to be true about Lockers carries no weight whatsoever as you are not the one playing under him. The only ones qualified to make this assessment with any authority are those who play or have played under him. Such as Radlinski for example. I think I'll side with Rads (or the numerous other players and coaches who say te same thing) rather than BK. A man's argument can often be summed up by those he sides with. IMO, of course....

You're correct he was. Lockers was man of the match in the last game, or was that the year before?

Has everyone forgot what IL said at the fans forum about leadership, or should i say lack of it.? Now this guy owns the club, so 1) he is entitled to his say and 2) you'd like to think he knows what he is talking about.
Our opinions pale into insignificance compared to his.

Think it was the third test of that series (when we played about with the team a bit IIRC).

I agree with you though that he is the best 13 at the moment, although Sinfield is in good nick I can't bring myself to pick him given past performance.

I'd go:

Graham
Moore
Peacock
Hock
Ellis
O'Loughlin

Roby
Burgess
Morley
Carvell

But I would not be surprised to see Ellis at 13 to add more size to the pack with something like:

Graham
Moore
Peacock
Hock
Morley
Ellis

Roby
LMS
Burgess
Carvell

I think the quote you're talking bout was aimed at the team as a whole rather than one man. As someone else has quite rightly pointed out, we need leaders across the park as other teams have and as we did in our great teams. One man, no matter how good cannot carry a team. Even Farrell couldn't manage it and he was as close as it has ever come to being the exception that proves the rule. It seems impossible to imagine now, but in our great teams we had the likes of Haney, Edwards and Bell, all great captains in their own right playing in the same team! That's before we add in the likes of Clarke, Farrell, Betts....oh my god, it doesn't half illustrate the dearth of support our present Captain has. We could barely name another player in the entire squad worthy of the armband! Hardly any wonder he cops so much flack really is it?

I thought IL said we needed more leaders, i do not think he was critical of Locky.


People point towards Faz as a great captain, but for much of his time he had at least 2 often 3-4 experienced International Captains in the squad to support him. At the moment Locky is somewhat a man apart. Riddell was brought in i think for his vocal nature in and around the dressing room but it has not kicked in yet for whatever reason, we need more players with opinions and attitude to back up Locky.

Snap!