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| Quote: NickyKiss "Burrow has been quiet this season and wasn't too impressive for England in the world cup.
Due to our overall lack of strengh he'd still get a place in my 17 but only as back up hooker to give Roby a rest.
It's a real worry when you compare Burrows game to Dobsons. I'd say Dobson is the best 7 in the league at the minute yet he couldn't get a regular game in the NRL. He can pass, kick and organise better then our supposed best 7(or the man that got picked there for the world cup anway) and has just as good a running game and seems to score more trys!
Thats poor.'"
Indeed, and Dobson isn't that great either, he just does the basics well for the most part.
A problem that's pretty much solely down to the poor youth development in place at most clubs for the past decade IMO. It's been too easy to buy in overseas players.
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| Quote: Billinge_Lump "Indeed, and Dobson isn't that great either, he just does the basics well for the most part.
A problem that's pretty much solely down to the poor youth development in place at most clubs for the past decade IMO. It's been too easy to buy in overseas players.'"
Hopefully we're seeing the first signs of recovery in the likes of Tomkins and Myler and it's not before time.
Watching some of our halfs/dummy halfs in recent years both in superleague and in tests trying to play a simple pass is nothing short of embarrasing! They simply can't do the basics that a player like Dobson does with ease.
The basic skill levels have to lift massively.
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| Quote: wire-quin "Doesn't Ainscough struggle to hold his place at Wigan? Do you think he would be as popular a choice on lets say the Leeds site?
.....Or is this the England side with the most Wigan players we can squeeze in due to it being the Wigan forum-just a thought.
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Its embarrassing how much you hate Wigan, iv seen you slagging us on about 4 topics and iv only just logged in. Grow up.
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| Opta's England team
P Wellens (St Helens)
D Hodgson (Huddersfield)
M Gleeson (Wigan)
M Shenton (Castleford)
R Hall (Leeds),
L Pryce (St Helens)
L Robinson (Huddersfield)
J Graham (St Helens)
J Roby (St Helens)
J Peacock (Leeds)
G Hock (Wigan)
J Wilkin (St Helens)
S O'Loughlin (Wigan)
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S Burgess (Bradford)
E Dowes (Hull)
K Sinfield (Leeds)
D McGuire (Leeds)
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| Quote: Catalancs "Opta's England team
P Wellens (St Helens)
D Hodgson (Huddersfield)
M Gleeson (Wigan)
M Shenton (Castleford)
R Hall (Leeds),
L Pryce (St Helens)
L Robinson (Huddersfield)
J Graham (St Helens)
J Roby (St Helens)
J Peacock (Leeds)
G Hock (Wigan)
J Wilkin (St Helens)
S O'Loughlin (Wigan)
[iInterchange
S Burgess (Bradford)
E Dowes (Hull)
K Sinfield (Leeds)
D McGuire (Leeds)'"
People say stats don't show you everything and those names prove thats exactly right
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| For those of you have put Carvell in the team, i am told he is Welsh
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| Quote: Dawson "For those of you have put Carvell in the team, i am told he is Welsh'"
He's played for them in the past but would choose to play for England if selected i'm sure.
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| Quote: NickyKiss "He's played for them in the past but would choose to play for England if selected i'm sure.'"
Ridiculous as it is
Scotland world cup international Danny Brough has made himself available for England.
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| Quote: Catalancs "Ridiculous as it is
It's a farce but thats what you get from splitting the home nations up.
I know they get more grant money from sport England ut it throws up these embarrasing selections.
I long for a GB vs Australia Ashes series.
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| Quote: NickyKiss "It's a farce but thats what you get from splitting the home nations up.
I know they get more grant money from sport England ut it throws up these embarrasing selections.'"
Don't see what having the home nations compete on their own has to do with it. It's just a convenient excuse for players and some fans.
The money from Sport England is more than welcome, but players like Danny Brough shouldn't be allowed to switch allegiances. Once you play for a country that's it.
Quote: NickyKiss "I long for a GB vs Australia Ashes series.'"
See no reason why we can't have both the individual nations and GB, as in union.
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| Quote: Catalancs "See no reason why we can't have both the individual nations and GB, as in union.'"
And I believe that's how it's going to work - problem being that we have so many fewer tours when compared to the rah rah's.
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| Quote: Leyther_Matt "And I believe that's how it's going to work - problem being that we have so many fewer tours when compared to the rah rah's.'"
That'll be down to fewer playing nations.
I know for a fact that Catalonia are making great strides to get on the international ladder. They play the Czech Rep. in Barcelona on June 20th and ideally they'd like to take part in one of the European tournaments in 2010.
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| IMO you should play for the country you've lived in the longest, with the option to swap once if you go on to live in another country longer. No quick, easy way round that.
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| Quote: Grimmy "IMO you should play for the country you've lived in the longest, with the option to swap once if you go on to live in another country longer. No quick, easy way round that.'"
Pick your country based on nationality or at a push parents and that's it.
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