At the worst he will be DV but much less expensive so i don't see how we can lose with this one personally. If we are looking at another player i hope we are looking to someone who can cover the halfbacks and maybe hooker. Don't think we should be looking at a prop as we have 5 already.

I can't understand this signing at all. He's (quite a lot) worse than Vaealiki. Fair enough if you couldn't afford any better, but I honestly think giving one of the youngsters a chance would be a better option.

Carmont is the kind of player I'd expect someone like Wakefield to sign, not Wigan. The petition to keep him was a pis take.

We will be running with a youngster [ias well[/i as Carmont, that's how thin the backline is. And as we're recruiting with a lower budget than Wakey this year the simile is correct. For a short term signing it stacks up fine given the circumstances. As my old English teacher used to say - 'You can only s[ih[/iit with the a[ir[/ise you've got.'

Anybody that comes out with a statement like that is obviously trolling . If he is cheap, which by all accounts he is, and if he is solid and offers a bit more pace than Vaeleki (which he surely must ), than he is a good enough stop gap signing.

The truth is though that very few of the people that are slating him have seen him play enough to make a qualified statement as to how good he is. I would rather wait and see.

Which youngster would that be? The only young centre capable of playing at SL level is Goulding and he is not IMO ready for a full season in the starting 13.

But even if he were ready, what happens if he or Bailey gets injured?

We would have no reserve centres.

With this signing in a normal 17 I'd expect Bailey and Carmont to start in the centres with Goulding coming on later allowing Bailey to switch to second row to give Hansen or Hock a rest.

Also it means if either Hansen or Hock are injured we can move Bailey to 2nd row and play a Goulding/Carmont centre pairing and of course if either Bailey or Carmont are injured, then in comes Goulding into the starting 13.

So signing another experienced centre opens up a lot of flexabi9lity in the back line and 2nd row. It therefore makes perfect sense to me.

The real question is, is Carmont good enough? Time will tell but in a strange way signing Carmont is better for Goulding because Goulding will get more game time than he would if he were trying to get a game ahead of Matt King!

Dave

The difference is that Maurice would most likely have spent £140,000 on him.

Why Cant people realise what Carmont is ?

Hes a stop gap and a decent one. No he's not King or cooper but we cant afford them guys THIS season.

Were running on a low budget and IMO we have with the money available done pretty good with signing. as IL said 08 will be hard but 09 will be different.

Top quote from George on Wikipedia (font of all useless knowledge!)

[iCarmont when asked about Newcastle "I’d like to stay here as long as I can, maybe I’ll try England if that doesn’t work out, but I’ll get what I can out of football while the body holds up," he said. "It beats working in a chicken factory."[/i

Heres what the Aussies think of him. forums.leagueunlimited.com/showt ... p?t=188267

Heres what the Aussies think of him. forums.leagueunlimited.com/showt ... p?t=188267

Carmont - poor signing tbh and i doubt he will score more than 5 or 6 trys next year.

But lets be realistic - weve got no money to spend on a good centre and hopefully he can add a bit of experience to a good backline. Anything is better than that tw*t DV.

He isn't the best player to sign but will do a job probably,

Danny Peacock (Centre), Daniel Gartner (2nd Row), Michael Withers (FB/Cntre), G Bradley (Centre), Shontayne Hapi (Centre) Henderson (Hooker) and I am sure there are a few more.
All relativley unknown players that werent classed as superstars who all came to Bradford & won Super League titles & Challenge cups during their time there.
Pretty sure that Brian Noble had something to do with the signings of some of them & would have learnt from previous coaches i.e Brian Smith & Matthew Elliott about getting the right "Combination" of players with the right "Attitude" to join your club rather than the Mercenary type that we may have signed over the last few years.
From memory I dont remember him assembling too many Bad squads at Bradford and making too many bad signings either!

As for being as good as Vaeliki then basically if he can catch/pass/tackle and score more than 1/2 dozen tries in a season whilst only being on about 1/3rd the money then I for one would rather have him here than Jethro "Bandy Legs" Bodine Vaeliki!

My source reckons Wigan are spending the full salary cap. I think the source is right on this so why do you think Wigan are running on a low budget? Is Leneghan not letting the club spend as much as Whelan use to?

At least Carmont has signed, my source wasn't wrong on that one. Does this now mean that Wigan will only be signing one of Cooper and Pryce?

My source was certian they were both going to sign, apparently to be announced originally on 1st November but this was put back to when Leneghan annouced his takeover but was put back from then to allow him to spin a yarn about having no money to spend and for the signings to be confirmed 1st December in time with the take-over becoming official. Could be a big news week at Wigan next week.

I was refering to the money available to sign players. not our over all budget

We had 140 grand left if we can get Mathers, Carmont and another player for that then I believe we have done very well.