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It's never a foregone conclusion. On paper we should've beaten Warrington more easily than we did. St. Helens don't have their best players but they have been without the likes of Lomax, Walsh and Wilkin for a large chunk of the season. They won't have to adapt to the way they approach Wigan like they might have had to should injuries have only just hit them.

Wigan's discipline and ball-handling skills out wide when we get an overlap will have to be improved upon. If we play like we did against Huddersfield it will be difficult for St. Helens to live with us IMO. If we are not that clinical then who knows, that's the beauty of sport.

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It's been a bit more difficult for Saints with the loss of key players but they've still made the final and they still won the league so if we go to O/T thinking it will be easy we will get what we deserve. Simples.

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Some parts of London are stunning, I've been here over a decade, some of it is a toilet but given the choice of Warrington/St Helens/Wigan against Richmond or Chiswick it's the latter 2 every time.

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Quote: Wire Yed "Some parts of London are stunning, I've been here over a decade, some of it is a toilet but given the choice of Warrington/St Helens/Wigan against Richmond or Chiswick it's the latter 2 every time.'"


Richmond and Chiswick are lovely areas but I'd rather live in Stretton or Stockton Heath in Warrington, Billinge or Standish in Wigan, Crank or Windle in St.Helens...places were I can actually park, and people say words like please and thank you icon_wink.gif

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Quote: Twentyman "Richmond and Chiswick are lovely areas but I'd rather live in Stretton or Stockton Heath in Warrington, Billinge or Standish in Wigan, Crank or Windle in St.Helens...places were I can actually park, and people say words like please and thank you
You'd rather live in Billinge than Richmond?! Wow. And the old "southerners aren't friendly" line is one of life's great myths IMO.

Anyway, each to their own!

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Quote: FearTheVee "You'd rather live in Billinge than Richmond?! Wow. And the old "southerners aren't friendly" line is one of life's great myths IMO.

Anyway, each to their own!'"


Yes, definitely each to their own mate. Spent a lot of time in and around London and of course, I'm just jesting about the friendliness of the southerners. Honestly though, I'd rather live up here.

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Quote: Twentyman "Richmond and Chiswick are lovely areas but I'd rather live in Stretton or Stockton Heath in Warrington, Billinge or Standish in Wigan, Crank or Windle in St.Helens...places were I can actually park, and people say words like please and thank you
WOOOAAAHHH!!!!!!!! eusa_naughty.gif

My bit of Billinge is not in Wigan. The only bit of Pieland we have is the postcode!!!!!! My MP is ST Helens north. My council is St Helens And we're also on the right side of Billinge Hill.. icon_cool.gif

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Quote: Top Saint "WOOOAAAHHH!!!!!!!!
Fair play to you. The are many many households on the St.Helens boundary of Billinge that put Nr Wigan on their postcode instead of St.Helens. I know this because for a few months over 7 years ago, I did a bit of postman work there.

I like both sides of Billinge as an area and would happily there than darrrn sarrfff.

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Saints may not be favourites but it would not rank as an upset if they won. They have masses of experience, a big pack and fast, skilful outside backs. They have done a great job of talking themselves down, I'll give them that, but their record this year speaks for itself. If we get sucked into a scrap like in the home game then we could struggle. If we stand toe to toe, then we should have enough in 1 to 7 (and 13) to see us home. Whoever wins will have had to play very well, which is as it should be.

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Quote: Twentyman "Fair play to you. The are many many households on the St.Helens boundary of Billinge that put Nr Wigan on their postcode instead of St.Helens. I know this because for a few months over 7 years ago, I did a bit of postman work there.

I like both sides of Billinge as an area and would happily there than darrrn sarrfff.'"


If you put Billinge St. Helens on the address it gets crossed off and Wigan put on. It does delay the letter arriving.

I know because a lot on my outlaws do it (I'm sure it's deliberate icon_biggrin.gif )

The correct address is Billinge Nr Wigan WN5 no matter whether it's higher or lower end.

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Quote: Lingfield Warrior "Saints may not be favourites but it would not rank as an upset if they won. They have masses of experience, a big pack and fast, skilful outside backs. They have done a great job of talking themselves down, I'll give them that, but their record this year speaks for itself. If we get sucked into a scrap like in the home game then we could struggle. If we stand toe to toe, then we should have enough in 1 to 7 (and 13) to see us home. Whoever wins will have had to play very well, which is as it should be.'"

The one thing we don't have is masses of experience. At least not of finals. We have a very inexperienced team in this context. Of those playing, only Makinson, Wello, Hohaia, Soliola and Robes have played in a final before. Hohaia, Wello and Robes are the only ones to have WON a final before. Even our coach is inexperienced in this context.

I think if Saints won I think it would rank as an upset. Not a single pundit or anyone is giving us a chance at all.

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Quote: SaintsFan "The one thing we don't have is masses of experience. At least not of finals. We have a very inexperienced team in this context. Of those playing, only Makinson, Wello, Hohaia, Soliola and Robes have played in a final before. Hohaia, Wello and Robes are the only ones to have WON a final before. Even our coach is inexperienced in this context.

I think if Saints won I think it would rank as an upset. Not a single pundit or anyone is giving us a chance at all.'"


It would be an upset for sure, similar to when Wigan won the CC in 2002.

Whilst you never go out to lose a game its been very clear that Wigan can shift gear in the important games (CC semi-final aside). I have not seen Saints play at the intensity that Wigan have done in recent weeks.

Brown needs to come up with a different game plan on Saturday, one that does not include Flanagan at 7.

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Quote: dany1979 "It would be an upset for sure, similar to when Wigan won the CC in 2002.

Whilst you never go out to lose a game its been very clear that Wigan can shift gear in the important games (CC semi-final aside). I have not seen Saints play at the intensity that Wigan have done in recent weeks.

Brown needs to come up with a different game plan on Saturday, one that does not include Flanagan at 7.'"


I think thats a masterstroke lol

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Quote: [Gareth] ""I think thats a masterstroke lol'"


To give credit where its due I think Nathan Brown has done a great job in getting them to the final, I just think that he will need to change their approach significantly to trouble Wigan on Saturday. They need bags of aggression early doors and lots of second phase play at the right end of the field but without a half-back its going to be very difficult for them.

Surely they must have a better option than Flanagan at 7?

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Quote: dany1979 "To give credit where its due I think Nathan Brown has done a great job in getting them to the final, I just think that he will need to change their approach significantly to trouble Wigan on Saturday. They need bags of aggression early doors and lots of second phase play at the right end of the field but without a half-back its going to be very difficult for them.

Surely they must have a better option than Flanagan at 7?'"


Saints went into the season with only Walsh and Hohaia as halfbacks. They had the chance to give Charnock and Hewitt some game time but chose not to. Wigan on the other hand when they lost Green to injury gave Powell, Williams and Hampshire first team experience.

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