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Quote: Grimmy "Evidently Warner Brothers wouldn't sponsor us for a full season, or not at a decent amount of money at any rate. You can't seriously believe we had the option of someone of that calibre with a good amount of money on offer and IL turned it down. He's a shrewd businessman with a massive vested interest in making money for the club. He will surely have made this decision because it was the best option on offer. It's not like blue chip companies have generally been falling over themselves to sponsor RL clubs, have we considered that it's a very difficult thing to do, and that Emirates was a massive one-off?'"


The criticism isn't that larger offers from blue chip companies have been turned down in favour of this deal, it's that the Wigan RL brand should be able to attract the best deal possible from more notable sponsors, especially the year after we have just done the double. Nobody knows how much this deal is worth or what other offers were on the table, but on the face of it not enough has been done behind the scenes to attract sponsorship. It's also not the first time it's happened (the 2010 replicas being released without a sponsor because the deal with Mecca bingo hadn't been sorted, for example).

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Quote: Grimmy "Evidently Warner Brothers wouldn't sponsor us for a full season, or not at a decent amount of money at any rate. You can't seriously believe we had the option of someone of that calibre with a good amount of money on offer and IL turned it down. He's a shrewd businessman with a massive vested interest in making money for the club. He will surely have made this decision because it was the best option on offer. It's not like blue chip companies have generally been falling over themselves to sponsor RL clubs, have we considered that it's a very difficult thing to do, and that Emirates was a massive one-off?'"


If something wasn't hard to do it wouldn't be worth doing. I am sure emirates didn't just turn up at warrington and said we want to sponsor you, it would of been a lot of hard work to get the right appointments and pitched hard. It just smacks some fans obviously as being a little bit lazy and not capitalizing on a fantastic brand.

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Quote: jinkin jimmy "It's a shame that you have to defend yourself in this way, though I must say you do it well. Unfortunately there now exists on here a cohort whose sole purpose is to put the rest of us to rights, which is why I seldom post these days.'"


The situation's quite simple ... anyone comes on here and takes the mickey out of Wigan RL is going to get short shrift from me, even if they are Wigan fans.

I find it hilarious that someone is moaning about being bullied when those who tried to stay positive during leaner times were given all kinds of stick by the professional whinge merchants. I was accused of being everything from a happy clapper to Ian Lenagan's wife because I wasn't calling for the heads of people who have subsequently gone on to win us trophies. One clown even went batsh7t because, after he accused the club chairman of theft, I had the nerve to single him out for criticism.

The behaviour of some Wigan fans on message boards is frankly embarrassing. Why they are surprised when people express annoyance with them is baffling.

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Current thoughts - Mago out or get running up them plantations, get fit or get rid. Maybe a back up halfback, someone with a bit of experience on a short term deal. Big tall strong running second rower, like a McMeekin or Sironen type back rower.:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_20333.gif



Embarrassing? This thread or in general?

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Quote: Wigan Peer "If cohorts exist, then you and your cohort was very aggressive and offensive to anybody who spoke against you last season. You were happy to slap down anybody who disagreed with you, and did not like it when people spoke against you. Typical bullies who cry foul when they get challenged.'"

Case in point, riding to Cruncher's defence like the self appointed forum police that you think you are. Adios for a while, methinks.

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Quote: jinkin jimmy "Case in point, riding to Cruncher's defence like the self appointed forum police that you think you are. Adios for a while, methinks.'"


Oh the irony...

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Quote: Nnibly_Warrior "As I have just posted on the FB announcement...

Sponsors are about business and money, don't get me wrong, it's lovely when clubs such as ours do charity shirts (Wigan & Leigh Hospice, Joining Jack, etc) but sponsors are about revenue and revenue only. I struggle to see and quite honestly don't believe that a local social housing project offers financial gains equal or greater to that of the biggest airline in the middle east and one of the top ten in the world.

Wigan, the biggest RL club in the Northern Hemisphere and the most well known name in RL history on a double winning season, a massive missed opportunity to bring a big money, big name, multi national corporation sponsor not only to the team but to the Super League itself. Decided to show a compassionate side instead, yes the sentiment is lovely, but Wigan RLFC is a rugby team and a business, not a charity.'"

Have to agree. Houses for Homes doesn't really scream double-winning world famous team does it?

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I'm sure paddypower would have sponsored us and advertised us to a larger market by marketing the odds of our game either on TV or to a wide audience on the Internet.'"

I'm not a Wigan fan but I am interested in the business side of RL.

The amount of negativity on this thread is astounding, and tbh if I had my own company I would steer well clear of RL clubs as their fans are never happy with anything.

On your point, this is why it's not worth discussing with many RL fans as they deal in fantasy. Why are you sure Paddypower would sponsor Wigan?

You have basically just picked a company out of thin air and said they would sponsor Wigan.

On the comparisons with my club Warrington, it is worth noting that last year we had a local company sponsoring us - there is absolutely a place for local sponsors and national sponsors.

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Current thoughts - Mago out or get running up them plantations, get fit or get rid. Maybe a back up halfback, someone with a bit of experience on a short term deal. Big tall strong running second rower, like a McMeekin or Sironen type back rower.:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_20333.gif



Quote: Dave T "I'm not a Wigan fan but I am interested in the business side of RL.

The amount of negativity on this thread is astounding, and tbh if I had my own company I would steer well clear of RL clubs as their fans are never happy with anything.

On your point, this is why it's not worth discussing with many RL fans as they deal in fantasy. Why are you sure Paddypower would sponsor Wigan?

You have basically just picked a company out of thin air and said they would sponsor Wigan.

On the comparisons with my club Warrington, it is worth noting that last year we had a local company sponsoring us - there is absolutely a place for local sponsors and national sponsors.'"


Paddypower will literally sponsor anything as will most online betting companies, I'm using paddypower as an example. Like Rads says in his book why not take a hit and have Nike make the shirts or Playstation sponsor the Superleague.

At the me of the day RL needs to build on the success of the WC and to do that it needs to look attractive to the heathen, with big sponsors it would help somewhat.

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Quote: post "Paddypower will literally sponsor anything as will most online betting companies, I'm using paddypower as an example. Like Rads says in his book why not take a hit and have Nike make the shirts or Playstation sponsor the Superleague.

At the me of the day RL needs to build on the success of the WC and to do that it needs to look attractive to the heathen, with big sponsors it would help somewhat.'"


Or Stobarts?
I mean they're a national company so why not take a hit just so we can have them sponsoring us?
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PS

As with the kit threads that will inevitably star soon I think some people are more worried about being "embarrassed" by fans of other clubs than anything to do with the commercials etc behind it.
As with the "pink" kit, I couldn't care less if we played in tu-tus and ballet shoes with Leigh cat and dogs home on the front as long as we're winning and the clubs getting stronger.

PPS (with happy clapper alert).

I can't seriously believe anyone is knocking our marketing teams with record crowds and A Profitable club in these difficult financial times?

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Quote: post "No I don't think IL turned down an option of that size.

So your telling me 'Houses for Homes' is the best we can do?'"


Yes.

I am convinced we could of attracted a bigger name but I do know that this deal will benefit the local community more than if we had gone for a more well known name and that is more important to the borough and in particular the deprived communities that will benefit.

Wonder how 'Paddypower' would help local communities?

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Oh yeh cos estate agents are so well known for their generosity and community spirit aren't they!

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Quote: WARRIORCRAIG "Oh yeh cos estate agents are so well known for their generosity and community spirit aren't they!'"

Whereas Nike and Coca Cola just pee money up the wall like it's going out of fashion of course. That's how they got so big, a none-aggressive commercial culture icon_rolleyes.gif

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Quote: WARRIORCRAIG "Oh yeh cos estate agents are so well known for their generosity and community spirit aren't they!'"


In this case yes they are!

In fact many housing organisations do tremendous work for local deprived communities including educational programmes and funding for community projects.

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