The majority of people on this forum change their minds week in week out, one minute it's 'McLorum isn't good enough' then it's 'McLorum should be in the side week in week out!' ... You all did the same with Tim Smith, 'Smith is Sh!t'... Then it's 'Smith is brilliant' - Wigan fans are the worst for this, they are so two faced it's unbelievable.

Let's be honest, Sam Tomkins in that Hull KR game would have been smashed around the pitch, you all seen the amount of big hits in the game, they would have targeted him every time... They were constantly heading at Smith, and they would have done the same against Sam... Simple as that.

I presume that Riddell is earning substantially more than Higham did, so to say that Wigan were right to replace one with the other doesn't make sense.

Ignoring the Higham thing (for now) as Higham defiantley won't be playing for Wigan on Friday, and to get back on topic re Sam.

Are we in agreement that Tommy, Smith, Sam, Piggy and Mickey Mac can't all be in the same 17?

1) We don't know what the injury situation is particularly regarding Micky Mac and he didn't look well as he left the field on Friday.

2) If we assume they are all fit, which one would you leave out, and why?

I have championed McIlorum for years and been pilloried (mainly by Saints fans) for suggesting he would be a future International.

However, I believe (at this time) we would be better served with Piggy starting, Timmy and Tommy starting and Sam on the bench.

My reasoning
Piggy passes the ball better, makes more metres, misses less tackles and makes less errors.

Over to you.

Statistics, statistics, statistics.

As I said earlier, Fatlad is a seasoned ex-NRL superstar, and here we are discussing whether he should be displaced by an upcoming young kid from the Academy.

The mere fact that we are having this discussion should be enough to tell you that Riddell is not living up to the hype, most of which, admittedly, comes from you.

When I go to watch my team I want to see players that put in inspiring performances. I want to see players who look like they want to win. I want to see players who are willing to put their bodies on the line for the club.

One of the players we are talking about does that, the other one is merely additional weight that we are having to carry around the field.

Riddell is currently stealing a living at Wigan.

We were promised a larger than life character who would add another dimension to the team. What we got was a little boy lost, who looks like he can't wait to get back home.

I wouldn't presume nothing on that score tbh.

Higham was signed by Lindsay from Saints via Bradford making him think he'd got one over on the old enemy. He took Newtons place in the squad and more then likely his wage which will have been a good one.

On the other hand Riddell has been signed by Lenagan who seems to be a very shrewd businessman and huge salaries will be a thing of the past.

He won't be playing for Wigan thats for sure ! forums.rlfans.com/viewtopic.php?t=410925

He won't be playing for Wigan thats for sure ! forums.rlfans.com/viewtopic.php?t=410925

what train do i need to get for warrington??

Ask Sam

He can't afford a car?

Jinkin Jimmy posted on here ages ago Higham was on £70K and that the info came from Millward himself.

If Higham was on a fortune why, when Higham, Calderwood and Barrett all left were the only senior players recruited were Robert and Riddell?

Now granted we gave some of the junior player a pay rise but if those three were on the fortunes some would have us believe we could have done that AND signed either more seasoned pros or a the odd genuine super star. We did neither so something doesn't add up.

Either these players were not on the money people think or we spent it Roberts, Riddell and the young players.



Seasoned NRL pros don't come over here for three years for peanuts. He will IMO be on a fair old whack and I'd guess more than the £70K suggested for Higham.

Dave

Nobody knows for sure though do they?

IMO Highams former deal and Riddells current deal won't be miles apart but i could be totally wrong.

As for abilities i likes Higham yet he did have his flaws but so does Riddell. I never totally went along with this idea that he couldn't pass from dummy half as sometimes it could be pretty good and again Riddell's isn't the greatest from what we've seen so far.

I do however believe Riddell will improve and thats all we can really concentrate on because he's here and Higham not.

Don't forget that Pryce started to count on the cap too.

Word on the street is that Hansen is back in this week.

and we've signed Gleeson who'll be on alot more then Mathers was on.