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| Quote: WiganRL12345 "You have got to be joking, I’m summary what you are saying is it’s ok for people to be unhealthy because they pay ‘more’ tax by default due to the amount they eat.
On your last point, I thought that nobody was advocating mandatory vaccination yet you want to tax people for not having it? If said unvaccinated person doesn’t occupy a hospital bed do they get the tax back?'"
On reflection I agree.
Have a covid passport that allows you entry to large-scale events and also nightclubs/restaurants for all those double/triple/quadruple vaccinated, but you must have the option of a negative lateral flow test taken within the last 24 hours as its completely unfair to exclude the unwilling unvaccinated from society.
This policy fits in well with the rumour that LF Tests will soon no longer be free for the whole nation.
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| Quote: muttywhitedog "On reflection I agree.
Have a covid passport that allows you entry to large-scale events and also nightclubs/restaurants for all those double/triple/quadruple vaccinated, but you must have the option of a negative lateral flow test taken within the last 24 hours as its completely unfair to exclude the unwilling unvaccinated from society.
This policy fits in well with the rumour that LF Tests will soon no longer be free for the whole nation.'"
you can catch covid and pass it on even if you are jabbed so your policy should really be everybody should take a lft for all of those events you mentioned / good luck with that
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| Quote: post "Kids weren't affected by any previous strains, Omicron is milder, so why.would someone want to get their kids jabbed unless they were scared into doing so?
A lot of my mates kids have had it, prob about 10 to 12 kids and all of them have had no symptoms or just a sniffle. So why subject them to gene therapy? Which in 2002 led to the children who recieved gene therapy to develop leukemia 2 years later?
I followed covid closely up until recently when I left the NHS, those hospital numbers aren't and have never been what people think. Hospital aquired infection was roughly 30% at least sometimes went up to 50%, so someone in hospital for a longer period of time would end up catching it but not in hospital due to it as some people think when they see the figures. With omIcron spreading easier due to the viral load being higher and in the bronchial passage its easier and faster spread so guess what? Those hospital numbers are higher.
Trust your own eyes and ears, what have the kids been like who you know with covid? Dont listen to the figures or the politicians.'"
Don't listen to the figures? You mean don't listen to the figures when they don't suit what you hope / believe in? Given what I posted is what has actually happened (i.e. facts) I'll go with what they are saying thanks.
When it comes to epidemics, I tend to listen what epidemiologists say..
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| Quote: Wigan6/Leeds1 Andy "Don't listen to the figures? You mean don't listen to the figures when they don't suit what you hope / believe in? Given what I posted is what has actually happened (i.e. facts) I'll go with what they are saying thanks.
When it comes to epidemics, I tend to listen what epidemiologists say..'"
So you are suggesting to vaccinate all children from birth based on 3 weeks worth of data?
I will re ask the questions I asked which you haven’t answered too.
1. Is it hospital admission because of omicron or with omicron when in hospital?
2. How is it determined they have omicron specifically?
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| Quote: WiganRL12345 "So you are suggesting to vaccinate all children from birth based on 3 weeks worth of data?
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Where have I said or suggested that?
The problem with straw men is they're easy to burn down.
Interesting that your account was set-up a few days ago with the name WiganRL....... but has only posted in a Covid thread. Hmmmmm......
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| Quote: Wigan6/Leeds1 Andy "Where have I said or suggested that?
The problem with straw men is they're easy to burn down.
Interesting that your account was set-up a few days ago with the name WiganRL....... but has only posted in a Covid thread. Hmmmmm......'"
The fact that you have posted a graph showing an increase in hospital admissions for unvaccinated children suggests that’s what you are saying. I just asked the question if you think that’s the right thing to do?
Do you disagree then with vaccinating children?
Not really what my posting history has to do with anything at all really. Do you want me to prove I’m a Wigan fan ha
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| Quote: WiganRL12345 "The fact that you have posted a graph showing an increase in hospital admissions for unvaccinated children suggests that’s what you are saying. I just asked the question if you think that’s the right thing to do?
Do you disagree then with vaccinating children?
Not really what my posting history has to do with anything at all really. Do you want me to prove I’m a Wigan fan ha'"
I just posted some facts - you seem to have problem with that. The FACT considerably more children are in hospital than ever before with Covid is worrying..
I just find it interesting that you decided to open an account on a rugby board and have only posted in a an off-topic thread. It's just like the other poster who has never posted before on here, but has decided to get heavily involved (although in their case they are a poster from the Leigh board using their burner account on here).
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| Quote: Wigan6/Leeds1 Andy "I just posted some facts - you seem to have problem with that. The FACT considerably more children are in hospital than ever before with Covid is worrying..
I just find it interesting that you decided to open an account on a rugby board and have only posted in a an off-topic thread. It's just like the other poster who has never posted before on here, but has decided to get heavily involved (although in their case they are a poster from the Leigh board using their burner account on here).'"
I don’t have a problem with it I just asked you for your opinion and some questions off the back of it. Maybe you have a problem with answering the questions?
Maybe you don’t have an opinion on it which is fair enough but not really sure of the purpose then to post the tables.
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| Quote: WiganRL12345 "I don’t have a problem with it I just asked you for your opinion and some questions off the back of it. Maybe you have a problem with answering the questions?
Maybe you don’t have an opinion on it which is fair enough but not really sure of the purpose then to post the tables.'"
Just posting facts to help the discussion along - I always find it surprising how different people react when faced with facts that don't suit their argument - some move to the straw man phase, some move to the conspiracy phase, some just tend to ignore them as it doesn't suit their agenda. We've had all three since I included some facts and figures.
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| Quote: Wigan6/Leeds1 Andy "Just posting facts to help the discussion along - I always find it surprising how different people react when faced with facts that don't suit their argument - some move to the straw man phase, some move to the conspiracy phase, some just tend to ignore them as it doesn't suit their agenda. We've had all three since I included some facts and figures.'"
You haven’t stated your argument, unless I have missed it?
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| Quote: WiganRL12345 "You haven’t stated your argument, unless I have missed it?'"
You've missed it.
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| Quote: Wigan6/Leeds1 Andy "You've missed it.'"
Please can you re share it or let me know which page and post to find it on.
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| I'd say you lot get a room, but you know, social distancing and all that
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| Quote: WiganRL12345 "Please can you re share it or let me know which page and post to find it on.'"
It's on here - I'll let you do your own research.
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| 40+ pages of people who quite clearly will never change their mind, arguing pointlessly with each other.
I can't wait for the season to start, anyone else?
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