No Return for Toronto

Quote: Pieman "I never said Fev I said Leigh, funny how you are slagging fev as flat cappers yet they back you over Toronto, 3 Australian states....I dont want it comfined on the M62, never said I did I dont think, go and find my post that said I did and I will take it back. He was doing it for his own publicity, hes a multi billionaire but said he ran out of money, yeah ok.....How did Perez achieve it as you say? Has he brought in more money? (bearing in mind they ran out of it). I dont know how you think it has widened the sports appeal? All the good you think Toronto did has been undone with all its negative headlines but you want that brushed under the carpet. Clubs who have been doing it without the money from Sky but still making good signings during the pandemic instead of crying off like Toronto did but lets dismiss them as they arent a big city team.

Youd rather get rid off all the teams except Leeds, Hull, Salford, Wakefield and Catalans and replace them all with City teams?'"

I said people wanting Fev in over Toronto.

He was doing it for the love of the sport, as quoted many times. I said it was mis managed (by Argyle)

10,000 new fans in Toronto at games. Championship games as well. Mass upset in Toronto about the situation from Toronto residents. But yeah they haven’t widened the appeal.

I haven’t brushed anything under the carpet. They were mis managed, I even said they ran before they could walk.

Salford have been deducted 6pts for financial mis management. Hull KR have dropped out the league. Catalans refusing to relocate. Saints refusing to travel. Yet what is all this met with? Barely a slap on the wrists.

Yes. I’d have Wakefield thrown out on their heels. How many years have they been promising a new stadium? How many years have they been borderline laughable? Cas had a mini revival but have gone down the pan too. The same applies to them. Embarrassing stadiums and offer next to nothing to the sport. So yes if it came down to it I’d have rid of those perpetual under performers, over promisers and under deliverers and bring in those who offer promise and growth. Other than a nice stadium, a good coach and a few odd surprises (making 2 finals), I struggle to see what Salford offer. You won’t find me calling for Leeds, Catalans or Hull to go and to suggest so is a bit silly.

In short, get rid of these clubs who are happy being mediocre and never do anything to grow themselves or the sport. They’re the problem.

The other massive issue I have is how these clubs even had a vote. It’s a bit rich them voting down Toronto when they’re so bloody poor themselves. This sport will never grow outside the M62 unless we are ruthless and demand high standards of performance, facilities and financial growth from our clubs. Standards that the likes of us, Saints, Leeds*, Warrington and Hull* consistently deliver. The RFL bizarrely drove down standards to give clubs like Wakey, Cas, KR and Salford a chance. Where has that got us? Nowhere.

Rid the RFL of its inept leaders. Rid SL of Elstone and bring in people who actually have a bit about them and want to grow our sport.

I honestly wished I liked football or RU. If I did, RL would be nothing more than an after thought to me. And if I (and many others) feel that way, why should anyone who is nothing more than a passive fan care one jot?

Edit: just to add, I’m not having a go at you. You have an opinion and I do, it just so happens they’re on the opposite ends of the scale. I’m really frustrated at how backward thinking we are as a sport whilst pretending we’re forward thinkers and innovative.