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| Quote Bigredwarrior="Bigredwarrior"I'm not sure what you expect from the lad? He's 22, had 4 1st team games at centre, the most difficult position to play defensively and absolutely nothing has gone through that flank. He's had no experienced players around him and played in a totally depleted squad and I've said a few times, against Hull I thought he was MoM. Against Leeds he did well but it was our senior players who let us down that day. Against Cas the team were poor for most of the game but Forsyth worked his nuts off. Ok a couple of passes round the back didn't come off but at least he tried in a well beaten side!
Ideally lads like Liam will be drip fed into the team when injuries are not an issue but he's been thrown in at the deep end I think he can hold his head high!
If he gets the nod this week with Faz inside him and with Burgess outside I suspect you might see something different.'"
plenty went through his flank v Hull, he has Joel on his inside so isnt so exposed.
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| Quote Pieman="Pieman"plenty went through his flank v Hull, he has Joel on his inside so isnt so exposed.'"
Wrong. They tore us open time after time down Gelling's flank and nothing at all went through our left edge. The only thing that came close was the offload from which Albert Kelly scored but that was more central and he ran past everybody!
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| Quote Bigredwarrior="Bigredwarrior"Wrong. They tore us open time after time down Gelling's flank and nothing at all went through our left edge. The only thing that came close was the offload from which Albert Kelly scored but that was more central and he ran past everybody!'"
Correct
Thought Forsyth looked a bit "Soft" at Warrington but since his re-introduction I think he's got better/Tougher with each game.
I actually though Castleford was one of his stronger games and ran it in hard, tackled hard.
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| I'd run with Burgess at centre. Marshall and Davies are doing great on the wings and I'd rather have a more experienced player further in field. I don't get where the accusations that Burgess can't pass are coming from, I've seen him put some really good passes back inside whilst running at full flight. Joel Tomkins is flat-footed far too easily to put at centre IMO.
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| Quote Grimmy="Grimmy"I'd run with Burgess at centre. Marshall and Davies are doing great on the wings and I'd rather have a more experienced player further in field. I don't get where the accusations that Burgess can't pass are coming from, I've seen him put some really good passes back inside whilst running at full flight. Joel Tomkins is flat-footed far too easily to put at centre IMO.'"
Burgess is a better winger than centre.
Joel is a better 2nd row than centre.
Both should play their strongest position. What's the point of having a big squad if we're not going to use it? We have a perfectly good centre in Forsyth and we should use him.
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| Quote Bigredwarrior="Bigredwarrior"Burgess is a better winger than centre.
Joel is a better 2nd row than centre.
Both should play their strongest position. What's the point of having a big squad if we're not going to use it? We have a perfectly good centre in Forsyth and we should use him.'"
IMO Davies and Marshall are going a lot better on the wings than Forsyth is at centre, and Burgess is devastating on his day whether you put him at centre or wing.
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| Quote Grimmy="Grimmy"IMO Davies and Marshall are going a lot better on the wings than Forsyth is at centre, and Burgess is devastating on his day whether you put him at centre or wing.'"
I completely agree with this.
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| Quote Grimmy="Grimmy"IMO Davies and Marshall are going a lot better on the wings than Forsyth is at centre, and Burgess is devastating on his day whether you put him at centre or wing.'"
When has Burgess ever been devastating at centre? I think we should play players in their positions. Davis and Marshall have been better than Forsythe but Burgess is better than them on the wing, I don't think we've seen any evidence that he's much use as a centre. Also I agree Burgess has shown he can pass when he's made a break but I think there is a difference between that and passing to create a break. The chances are Forsythe will be better than he has been with Williams, Farrell and Burgess around him too. Happy to be wrong obviously.
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Davis/Marshall Gelling Forsythe Burgess
Williams Leuluai
O'Loughlin
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Flower Powell FPN
McIlorum Isa Sutton Tautai
Looks a lot more like it.
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| Quote Major Tom="Major Tom"When has Burgess ever been devastating at centre? I think we should play players in their positions. Davis and Marshall have been better than Forsythe but Burgess is better than them on the wing, I don't think we've seen any evidence that he's much use as a centre. Also I agree Burgess has shown he can pass when he's made a break but I think there is a difference between that and passing to create a break. The chances are Forsythe will be better than he has been with Williams, Farrell and Burgess around him too. Happy to be wrong obviously.
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Davis/Marshall Gelling Forsythe Burgess
Williams Leuluai
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Tomkins Farrell
Flower Powell FPN
McIlorum Isa Sutton Tautai
Looks a lot more like it.'"
i remember him killing it at centre away at Saints when he was moved their midway through a game, think it was the first game against them after the Flower final. He also went well their in one of his last games for us before he left IIRC. Obviously not a lot of games to judge him on but he has all the skills IMO, he may even be more involved at centre which could be a benefit. It's all opinions obviously, FWIW I think Wane will go with the side you suggest.
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| Quote Grimmy="Grimmy"i remember him killing it at centre away at Saints when he was moved their midway through a game, think it was the first game against them after the Flower final. He also went well their in one of his last games for us before he left IIRC. Obviously not a lot of games to judge him on but he has all the skills IMO, he may even be more involved at centre which could be a benefit. It's all opinions obviously, FWIW I think Wane will go with the side you suggest.'"
I think your memory may be playing tricks with you
After the Flower final was 2015 and that was his last season with us before his move
Joe Played left wing and didn't switch to centre in either of the 3 games that season and in fact to my memory as hardly played or been moved to centre at all in his Wigan career.
He didn't start at centre in 2014 either
I don't ever remember him starting at Centre in a Competitive game (He started at Centre in a pre season against Leigh and was pretty average).
I like Joe and a few people on here know I know him quite well, but a centre, not for me (yet).
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| Quote Jukesays="Jukesays"I think your memory may be playing tricks with you
After the Flower final was 2015 and that was his last season with us before his move
Joe Played left wing and didn't switch to centre in either of the 3 games that season and in fact to my memory as hardly played or been moved to centre at all in his Wigan career.
He didn't start at centre in 2014 either
I don't ever remember him starting at Centre in a Competitive game (He started at Centre in a pre season against Leigh and was pretty average).
I like Joe and a few people on here know I know him quite well, but a centre, not for me (yet).'"
He definitely has played at least 2 or 3 games at centre in the past, that's why I wasn't surprised to see him named there against Widnes before he got injured.
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Quote Jukesays="Jukesays"I think your memory may be playing tricks with you
After the Flower final was 2015 and that was his last season with us before his move
Joe Played left wing and didn't switch to centre in either of the 3 games that season and in fact to my memory as hardly played or been moved to centre at all in his Wigan career.
He didn't start at centre in 2014 either
I don't ever remember him starting at Centre in a Competitive game (He started at Centre in a pre season against Leigh and was pretty average).
I like Joe and a few people on here know I know him quite well, but a centre, not for me (yet).'"
This is the Saints game I was referring to - www.saintsrlfc.com/content/saints-v-wigan-5
Have a look on Wigan TV if you can be bothered, they reference him playing well at centre after doing poorly on the wing.
Cas at home in 2015 was the other game I referred to. He scored a try and Manfredi scored 4 outside of him. wigan.rlfans.com/news.php?readmore=4899
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Quote Jukesays="Jukesays"I think your memory may be playing tricks with you
After the Flower final was 2015 and that was his last season with us before his move
Joe Played left wing and didn't switch to centre in either of the 3 games that season and in fact to my memory as hardly played or been moved to centre at all in his Wigan career.
He didn't start at centre in 2014 either
I don't ever remember him starting at Centre in a Competitive game (He started at Centre in a pre season against Leigh and was pretty average).
I like Joe and a few people on here know I know him quite well, but a centre, not for me (yet).'"
This is the Saints game I was referring to - www.saintsrlfc.com/content/saints-v-wigan-5
Have a look on Wigan TV if you can be bothered, they reference him playing well at centre after doing poorly on the wing.
Cas at home in 2015 was the other game I referred to. He scored a try and Manfredi scored 4 outside of him. wigan.rlfans.com/news.php?readmore=4899
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