Please don't defend him. That was a shocking. A deliberate forearm to the throat.

After the Grand Final, I felt he should never be allowed on a rugby field again. It was so obviously a sending off offence tonight and he still saw fit to argue the case while he was walking.

A great come back tonight. Once you decided to start playing rugby there was only going to be one winner. As a Hull fan, it sets up a great finale at the KC next Friday.

Looks like you'll now finish second and whoever loses next week will face a tough semi final at your place.

We have all indeed seen worse. Indeed, we have seen worse from this particular player.
However, I'm struggling to think of anything quite as dangerous as leading into the face of a vulnerable player with the elbow in this or recent seasons.
Perhaps the tackle on Fages by the Catalans player a couple of years ago...

It was not a forearm, it was his elbow.

great game, well played you where fantastic, as for flower no excuses he deserves a long ban

he deserves the boot, always injured or banned

I know Barlow ain't playing Rugby League for four years. I know Acton and Hock are two of the most banned rugby league players in the world game. I know Beaumont is a really un-likeable character (matter of opinion) and reports are that he's not that well thought of at other clubs.

You can throw what you want at Flower and Wane (you could call it a tantrum if you want), but ultimately their misdemeanours pale in to insignificance in comparison to those of the characters named.

Feel free to keep posting your opinions though, they're all very welcome.

Why does the behaviour of some other people mean that this guy's opinion is not relevant? If some people who are not you but are involved with Wigan behaved badly would that affect the validity of your opinions?

Correct. Have edited accordingly.

Nowt wrong with it says Shaun.

Wigan coach Shaun Wane "(On Flower's dismissal) If you slow anything down, it can make it look bad - I didn't see much in that, I'm sure it will be seen the correct way.

"We were under pressure against a team playing really well. I thought it was a great effort and, for guts and determination, it's a fantastic win.

"To overcome that adversity makes it really satisfying. We have that unbreakable spirit and trust in each other."'"

I agree, i think we should stay on topic.. And that is the the (current) Ben Flower situation, which i have already stated my complete displeasure at on page 2

I think 2 matches as he was sent off,what i did notice was Patton not lying around after the challenge feigning injury respect to him for that i suppose he will learn that in time

Tony Smith thought the Red Card was harsh. I'll take that.

I honestly thought it was just a yellow. I saw it as clumsy not malicious.