Im not even disbuting how good he is. But fact is hes lost 4 (sorry not 3) finals in a row. The best turn up and on form of the play offs Fielden is pushing him for that spot. He makes big meters over a season but when it matters he does not perform at the same level. Yes he got targeted just as Fielden does or any decent prop. Good thing for England is if seleceted the 3 of Morley, Graham and Fieden should compete with the Aussies.

Im not being funny pal or looking for a heated debate but fielden ain't a patch on graham. Ive always liked fielden from his bulls days and seems a very honest bloke when ive heard him talk about his poor form at wigan but he not in the same league as graham.

I think he should be on the plane to play down under in the four nations as his form has been good this year.

Graham needed someone to take the work load off him last night but next year he will have a very very good prop in josh perry with him.

Over the season OFC Graham has been one of the best props in SL aloing with Morley. But for the last month to 6 weeks no prop has played as well as Fielden has. Graham does need a lot of help. LMS is a decent player who will help out along with Perry.

I think saints next year with graham, perry, tony p and LMS will have the best props in the super league.

Perrry is a top class signing.

Clough will also be a 5th prop.

HTH can you be commenting on something you have not seen?? another scouser who's not withit

James Graham was a complete bitch last night. He has the potential to be the best in the world but his persistent dummy spitting is going to cost him. I was surprised he lasted until the end with his dirty play and constant back chatting. If Silverwood had a spine he would have sent Graham for 10 mins early in the 2nd half. Shame really.

so Graham couldn't have caused a tiny rip/tear that got worse through the game until it finally ended with Pat being injured.

Until it is proven then how can anyone blame him ?

You want him to have caused it.

Lets face it, stamping on a players leg wont help matters but to be honest im not sure he did it intentionally.

Its all well and good saying that but before yesterday all the Saints fan were saying that thier biggest advantage was in the front row. But Fielden, Coley, Prescott and Feka were well on top, the weakest of the four was obviously Feka and hes being replaced by Lima who is a top quality prop just like Perry is.

Saints will have one of the best sets of props but i dont see Wigans being weaker than them myself.

Post more often mate, i may be sad but i love your posts and avatar.

I thought Graham overplayed the move whereby he passes before he hits the defensive line. In the second half he was doing this every time he had the ball, and it wasn't effective at all, it being read by our defense every time, smacked of him either couldn't be bothered taking it up or fed up of getting hammered by our defense.

Graham meant to stand on Richards leg, and I would expect to hear more of it, but I dont think we will.

His attitude will prevent him becoming a great and in the NRL they will just ban him.

It's a shame in many ways. He's a fantastic player, but he spoils his image by behaving appallingly.