You don't even have a season ticket.

I really dont care about the atmosphere, i go to watch the rugby, not have a sing song.

That being said, good luck to those people who - if they manage to - set up the singing section.

A couple of year ago Liverpool talked about setting up a section in the kop for folk who want to get singing etc started. I think they were going to call it the 'powerhouse'. Bit cheesy I know. Often thought that's what we need at the JJB though, in the East stand. Even if it's just 100-200 seats, to concentrate the 'singers'. The club would need to lead this but can't see it ever happening. You can't just turf out a whole section of season ticket holders just because they don't want to sing. Need to do something though; it's way too sporadic at the moment (partly due to a poor season i guess). I also think the drum is overused and can sometimes dampen the atmosphere building up, e.g. at the end when the players walk over to an ovation (sometimes), rather than allowing the applause to build up and maybe an impromptu chant, it's always the same... bang, bang, bang bang bang, bang bang bang bang, Wigan. Getting a bit predictable to me. Sorry if thats a bit whingy for a first post, i'm usually more positive!

why not just hire the "rhondda valley male voice choir" ??????

would sound a lot better than a bunch of boozed up chavs and middle aged wanna be sinatras

I'm all for it. The more noise the better, I've been on the Kop at Anfield for some tremendous nights including the first Liverpool/Chelsea Champions League semi and I've experienced nothing like it anywhere. It'd be nice to have a slice of that passion at Wigan.

I'm sick of half-hearted chants that do two or three choruses before they fade out and then ten minutes from the end (regardless of the score) 1/4 of the ground firing off home (cue the "I pay my money, I'll go when I want" type remarks.)

Cheesey or not lets get a section sorted for next season (all the best Ultras are organised www.youtube.com/watch?v=nE7oMGFqVG4

Wait a few seconds for it to get going.

The best fans in the world IMO.