Every man and his dog could see before the first game that we either needed a HB like Sam on the bench or Mcilorum on there because Piggy would never last a full 80.

Taking Piggy off, moving Tommy to hooker, moving Lockers to HB and then bringing Joel off the bench to 13 meant it was almost like playing a brand new team with a new 9, 6 and 13 and then swapping it all again when Piggy came back on.

Tactical ineptitude of the highest order on Noble’s part.

rlQuite simple reallyrl

You should know by now, Shaun Ainscough is god around here, with Goulding as his prince.

One cannot talk of these two unless it is to lavish praise or build up beyond all sense of resonableness.

What does that prove? Your telling me the inform winger in SL at that time wouldn’t have played as well as Roberts? Was Roberts even that good in that game? What had Shaun done to deserve to be dropped as well?

Or what about the Warrington game where Ainscough looked a shadow of the cocky, energetic talent we had earlier on? You could tell he was terrified of making a mistake or messing up. He was hung out to dry by Noble and it’s safe to say from that performance we haven’t been working in training on his kick defence have we.

Before that Ainscough had come in for the Cas game and scored on debut and played well, he then played in the Quins game and won it for us. He’s called up for the Wakey game at the last moment and nails it how so how does Noble say thanks to a kid who has played a massive role in changing our fortunes and saved his job…..he drops him. Excellent management skills there Mr Noble.

Same goes for Sam-He comes into the team and transforms it, plays a massive role against Quins, puts in a stellar tackle on long at Murryfield, scores the decisive try against Wakey in the cup and is dropped against Hull KR the week after and we look clueless. He then gets a MOM performance in the next round of the cup against Salford and is dropped the week after against the same opposition even tho he’s good enough to train for the England team???

What must our young players think?

Sorry i didn't realise it was a crime to be proud of a Wigan lad performing well in SL.

I’m surprised you’ve not tried to blame all this on IL yet btw. He’s the devil incarnate don’t you know who’s responsible for everything bad that’s ever happened in the world.

There is a difference though between being proud of him doing well and being totally blind to the fact his game still needed some work.

Surely you agree?



Well, now that could never happen. He is faultless. Suffice to say, If everything was exactly as is, but Maurice was chairman, this place would have exploded.

There's no point arguing with fanboys.

Yes he has work to do.

BUT he was arguably the best winger in SL when he was playing and putting Pat and Roberts to shame. Like I said any player that scores four tries in one game does not deserved to be dropped for a player that’s only scored five all season and isn’t that much better in the air either

Well, now that could never happen. He is faultless. Suffice to say, If everything was exactly as is, but Maurice was chairman, this place would have exploded

There is a difference though between having a few grievances about his style and being totally blind to the fact he’s done a lot of good work.

Surely you agree?

That’s because you’re talking utter e and spouting the same duty of care cr@p Noble feeds to the press to cover over the fact he’s dropping a player in form for an overpaid Aussie he signed.

Yeah, I agree. But I would be slightly less forthcoming with the praise of IL than you appear to be.

Ainscough didn't deserve to be dropped when he was, but I cant disagree with not playing him each week, as overall his game isn't yet ready for week in week out SL.

I hope for our new coaches sake, he plays Sam & Ainscough each week, or he will clearly be hounded out of town before he starts.

I personally woyuld have kept colbon.

I think the lad was ok and roberts is no better but a damn site more expensive

I'd be happy if he didn't play him every week as well and I also wouldn't be on the coaches back either if it actually looked like he had a selection plan in place.

If Ainscough is playing out of his skin and scoring a bucket load of tries then he stays in until he's not simple as. If Tomkins is playing out of his skin and getting a MOTM in his first CC quarter final then he stays in the week after simple as.

If Fielden makes four drives against Leeds in one game then he should be dropped. If Piggy is deeply unfit and not performing then he should be dropped. If Roberts has trouble under the high ball (Salford & Saints at home) then don’t cover it up or fail to mention it when you’ve slated a 19 year old for it a few weeks back.

One set of selection rules for one set of players and another set for another group but yet one group is performing and doing us proud whilst the others just simply aren’t

That’s what gets at a lot of fans me included angry.

I agree with that.

I never meant my initial post to come across as Ainscough should play every week regardless of form but I honestly think Noble has been at fault with the whole situation regarding him and Sam.

Maybe Noble decided to make a point in the press about the weaknesses in Ainscough’s game to keep his feet on the floor who knows but I honestly think it did more damage than good.

As my posts on IL show I’m all for keeping things in house in regards to things like this. Noble should have been telling Sky what a talent he was and it’s great for Wigan and the game even if he didn’t believe it or told Shaun differently in training.