This place is schizophrenic - when we’re not being told Saints have no injury problems and three is nothing on the back of years of no issues (ie the medical and conditioning team continue to do a good job), we’re being told we’ve got injuries therefore the medical and conditioning team can’t be performing better than others.

And when we’re not being told we’d be the same as everyone else without a freak like Walmsley, we’re being told our pack is still great without him.

Not to mention the irony of pointing out Saints fans playing down chances due to injury as some sort of advance coping mechanism whilst at the same time minimising the impact of Saints missing players and saying how strong saints still are as some sort of advance coping mechanism in case we go on to win it!

It was a bizarre line being thrown about by Saints fans, you’re right. We comment that you’ve been lucky with injuries and get told it’s because of a class leading medical and conditioning team. A few injuries happen and now it is down to luck after all.

In summary we agree. You’ve had 3 or 4 unbelievably lucky seasons with injuries and this season you’ve been ‘relatively’ unlucky (but still had it much better than many other clubs).

So what, five season of looking better conditioned and being lucky with injuries now? How many until it might havesomething to do with conditioning?

Don’t know why Saints bothered whipping the squad to St George’s Park this week for better facilities for prep and recovery, should have just given them all a rabbit’s foot like they have done since 2018.

In the words of Jackie Gleason

'Get in the car Junior, We are surrounded by a mental case'

Got to remember Walmsley missed the magic game which saints won so they can win without him.

Is Hopoate injured ?

FWIW (and I’m not saying they can’t win on Saturday and the GF thereafter) but I found Woolf in his pre-match press conference on social media very unsure. Usually he is very straight talking, assured and matter of fact. He looked confused himself regarding the injuries and the game itself ahead. I think the game deserves a Sts v Wigan final as the previous meetings this year have been a level above any other game IMO, but I just have a feeling Saints are vulnerable and Salford might just do it.

On the other hand, Rohan Smith looked assured but I think it may be a game just too far for Leeds. Can’t wait for this weekend!

As a Hull fan, who has no bias, I think and have done all season, that Wigan will be crowned champions, regardless of who else makes the final. Under Peet, you look different to the previous Wigan teams, he's instilled that Wigan class into this team and the feeling, for me , is like that of the Wigan of old. Professional, reactive and everyone on the same page. Salford have done brilliantly well, even if they get hammered against Saints, which I don't think will happen, but Saints will overcome them, Croft's expected absence will be the difference in my opinion and then they'll probably face Wigan in the GF- and what a game that will be. I think some of your players, like say Smithies, Havard and Smith have improved and are now at a much higher level which is down to Peet and his team and your genuine pace in the back line, with a hard edged pack of hungry young and experienced olayers, makes you top dogs for me.

Some saints fans do seem weirdly obsessed with the conditioning aspect. I remember in 2014 when we had a million guys out, they were all banging on about how it’s our strength and conditioning etc, lightyears behind Wigan Leeds and Warrington who don’t suffer anywhere near as many injuries as we do. We are doing something wrong! Last couple of years we have had the best strength and conditioning and the players are all in peak superhuman condition which is why they’re not getting injured. Now there’s a problem again!

It’s almost like injuries are down to luck. Though tbh I wouldn’t be surprised if 3 straight years of playing at our defensive intensity has finally started to take its toll. Lot of hamstring injuries that’s for sure

It was Chris Joynt who came up with that and of course you would have been given as much credit if you had champions the last two probably more in fact

It was Joynt you're right. He said it the once though.

Am I right in say Saints have only 4 players out injured ?

Yes but they're the sooperdooperist players in the league whilst everyone else's missing players can easily be replaced from the squads

Saints squad for Salford includes
1 2 4 6 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 + 23(Hurrell) who's barely missed out all season
The unfairness of it all......