I'd rather have Wire's season from last year than Leeds' season from last year. Leeds where the best team for about 4 weeks. Wire where the best team for 27 weeks. When i pay £200 plus for my season ticket its because i want to see them finish top of the league, not win a 4 weeks play off comp that i don't give a to$$ about.
Think about how awful it was under Noble, 5th/6th every year then a post season surge in the playoffs-, big deal, we were still a distinctly average SL side regardless of the playoffs.
The only problem is people will look at the list of all time Champions and see '2011 - Leeds' and will then think -'oh Leeds must have been a bloody good side in 2011' when the reality is they are statistically the poorest champions of all time.

By any sensible definition of the word there is an argument going on here.
You don't recognise that because you either don't understand the word or are clearly incapable of engaging in the discussion other than by pouring scorn on it.

Arrogant, dull and patronising to boot...you epitomise and justify every criticism I've seen of Wigan fans in general and posters on here in particular.

DID YOU JUST CALL SOMEONE PATRONISING!!!!!!

I think you are quite wrong about the 2011 Leeds Rhinos. 2011 saw the Leeds club completely revamped in terms of coaching and playing structure. The plays and systems that were in place for over a decade, the ones that the numourous home grown talent had leant since their skolarships programmes began had been completely wiped clean by MacDermott in an attempt to freshen things up. During the season I saw some very good signs of defence and attack but neither were put together on a regular basis. Signs were evident that the players were struggling and MacDermott was also learning about his side. They stook at it when pressure got very high. It took almost a full season for the players to put things together and for MacDermott to find a way to get the best out of his squad. It was frustrating to watch but fascinating when glimpses were shown. In the end it was put together and nobody can deny that Leeds played some very special rugby in the playoffs.

I've paid for my season ticket and seen Leeds do things the 'Warrington way' and win the competition by been the best side all season, but 2011 will definitely be the one to stick in the memory above the rest!

I'd rather pay £200 to see the champions rather than watch a team that choked when it really mattered. It's ok being a flat track bully against the also rans but I'd rather watch a team that stood up when it really counted. But life would be boring if we were all the same.

You need to stop reading all the cry-baby threads on Southstander about this board then. The same people start a new one every few weeks when they've lost their latest dummy.

If starting a new thread every few weeks whining about being banned on here is now considered gloating, Substandard has gone downhill even more than I thought.

Substandard? Oh what delicious irony!

Of course the cry-baby who had to start another thread about us, couldn't see this thread is nearly a year old and was restarted by a Leeds fan.